Opinions about rerelease of dolls ?

Hi

At this time it is not known if Saber Alter will be a doll or just an armor.

 

A rerelease should be a good thing.

But with this possible rerelease I think a lot...

Some DD are going for an huge amount of money on YJ. I think especially : the 3 ToHeart2 and Saber Alter.

So even if I think " I hope they will be release this doll", I can't imagine how I would feel if I would buy one for a LOT of money and after Volks would rerelease her for half the price.

I have to admit it makes me feel quite bad ...What about buying a doll a huge amount of money or waiting for a possible but not certain rerelease one day???

In any case just my feelings.....

I am quite new in DD, and I don't know if rerelease are frequent or not.

 

Opinion anyone?

Well I paid 285000 for Alter just now ._.

 

At least it's not exactly the same, 'll most likely be getting the re-release as well

Edited September 16, 2011 by Guest

we're getting two dolls for the upcoming release and looks like we'll have a re-release of Alter unless she gets a new face mold.

 

I do agree about a re-release being a good thing for all the DD owners out there who didn't have the chance to obtain the previous releases.

 

but If I were one of the desperate ones who REALLY wanted/dreamed of obtaining an Alter or one of the real expensive ones like Alter and had to pay THAT much, I'd be upset to be honest with a re-release.

 

the problem is no one can control the after-market price range they go for, which is the reason most go for a high price tag ( especially being a popular character).

 

I'm also not so sure about Volks stand point on re-releasing limiteds particularly. I thought it never happens, until I saw Moe getting a 2nd version release.

I think it will be the same head to be honest, the only other "second ver" was.

the problem is no one can control the after-market price range they go for, which is the reason most go for a high price tag ( especially being a popular character).

 

I'm also not so sure about Volks stand point on re-releasing limiteds particularly. I thought it never happens, until I saw Moe getting a 2nd version release.

When Moe was re-released, Volks said that it was due to many requests that they got. It's probably just partial-truth. But when so many people want a particular doll and they willing to pay so much for her (yahoo prices), why won't re-release her and make money on it?

If there's one thing I've learned from collecting Volks dolls... Limited always means Limited... but as far as the head mold goes, it doesn't necessarily mean "Never again"

 

I've never had a problem with Volks rereleasing dolls, because most of the dolls they make are limited, and sometimes, even with the after market, there just aren't enough to go around.

 

I don't buy the dolls for their limited nature, I buy the dolls because I want them XD

 

Yes, it sucks a lot when you buy one at second-hand prices and they rerelease it (I've had this happen with resin)... but in the end, I was still happy with my purchase... and as far as reselling them, I've almost always gotten back what I paid.

I heard some talk about it collapsing the value of the original, to be honest, I don't think it will. Why would people selling the original suddenly start offloading them cheaply since this release is considerably different? It makes no sense.

The moment someone decided to dish out 1k+ on a secondary market doll, you negate your ability to be sad you paid so much. I'm not saying this to be mean but buyers have to be mentally prepared -especially a popular DD like Saber who already has multiple versions- to see this doll again. Everyone is entitled to their feelings on the subject but secondary market transactions are always 'buyer beware'.

 

Volks will always make more DDs that you will adore. It's what they do. I wouldn't torment yourself too much about past releases. That said: if there's no way around it and this is the doll of your ultimate dreams, i.e.: you're going to take the plunge and spend 1k+ on a doll you love more than life itself, then it shouldn't matter if they ever release a version of her again- that one is particularly special to you. ^^

 

I know if I were on the fence about a DD and how much I was thinking of paying for it then I would ask someone in the forum about the transaction. Many people have been collecting these dolls for a long time and watch the markets closely- they would be a wealth of wonderful information. ^^

I heard some talk about it collapsing the value of the original, to be honest, I don't think it will. Why would people selling the original suddenly start offloading them cheaply since this release is considerably different? It makes no sense.

 

It's not that the sellers would decide to drop the price, it's that buyers would go for the new, cheaper version, rather than pay for the original. I agree with you, I don't think it will have a huge effect, unless the new version of Alter is a straight rerelease with the added sword. Which is very unlikely.

 

Since we're talking about rereleases, Someone ought to bring up Rei. She's had three versions, two with her original DDH-02 head sculpt (swimsuit and transfer student versions). Plus the DDH-02 is widely available as an option head or as Aoi. Obviously, she doesn't go for the tremendous amount Saber Alter commands.

 

Also, Moe introducing the DDIII has some precedent, as Mirai and Candy, the very first DDs, saw rerelease as both DDII and MDD versions.

There are many DD characters I would like, but buying a after marcket price is sometimejust plain stupid.

 

I like it when Japan do limited items, but i think sometimes there limited items are a tad to limited, so I'd alway welcome a re-issue.

The Dollpa releases are all tagged as limited and this is not the first time that Volks has re-released a dollfie with some variations. They have done so with Super Dollfies before and I guess DDs will not be an exception.

They have always introduced variations in the releases - eg normal skin/pure skin versions even if the head sculpt is the same.

 

If you've shelled out big dollars in the aftermarket (I did for the original armour Saber) the consolation is that you've had use of it for longer.

Since we're talking about rereleases, Someone ought to bring up Rei. She's had three versions, two with her original DDH-02 head sculpt (swimsuit and transfer student versions). Plus the DDH-02 is widely available as an option head or as Aoi. Obviously, she doesn't go for the tremendous amount Saber Alter commands.

 

Yep, I was thinking about this earlier today. Whether it's the 02 version or the newer one, Rei seems to be popular but not so much as to command huge prices. After finding mine in a Mandarake in Osaka ( she was the swimsuit version ) with her school uniform included, I couldn't figure out why I paid so little compared to other DD's at the time. I got her for 30,000 yen and she had all her stuff and the extra uniform.

 

I know the main reason now was due to the DDI body. But still, so many people buy dolls just for the heads nowadays and resell the bodies and clothing, why wasn't this done with Rei? I find it odd that so few of her are around even tho her character is quite popular.

 

Maybe she lives on in the 02 blank heads.

 

 

Billy

I guess it is just a chance to take. I just dropped a lot of money (more than I should have, I acknowledge this) for Tamaki and Sasara. Yes, if they are rereleased soon, I will be a bit disappointed. On the other hand, they might never be rereleased. It's a gamble. I do t think I would be upset at Volks, more just upset at myself for spending so much.

A re release wouldn't bother me. I see it as a chance for people who missed the 1st chance to have another shot or for those who don't have to money to go to the 2nd hand market.

 

Wayne

I was under the impression that, because of their limited nature, DDs are considered collector's items. As a collector's item, I feel that re-releasing something that was originally dubbed as a limited item is a break of trust on Volks part. They use the fact that they are limited and won't be sold again as a selling point, so it should stay that way.

What if they rereleased a one-off? Does it make it ok just because it's popular?

Thank you for all your replies!

From my opinion, I still have very contrasted feelings about rerelease.

 

It's not that the sellers would decide to drop the price, it's that buyers would go for the new, cheaper version, rather than pay for the original. I agree with you, I don't think it will have a huge effect, unless the new version of Alter is a straight rerelease with the added sword. Which is very unlikely.

 

Not sure :

http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u36847778

 

Sure I am happy to be able to get the new Saber.

But honnestly I think it is really weird for those who bought it at such a big amount.....

 

 

EDIT : wow already sold during I wrote this message!!!

Sure I am happy to be able to get the new Saber.

But honnestly I think it is really weird for those who bought it at such a big amount.....

 

Given they redesigned Saber's head the new Altar will probably be a whiteskin version of the Saber Lily head rather than the older Saber head.

My advice is wait for the head sculpt.

I'm not angry at all when/if they re-release. All that "limited" means to me is that they won't be made to order. A one-off is different, since it says it all in the title: ONE!

 

At the end of the day, I don't care what the value of my doll is. If I bought a limited it would be because I love her, how much her actual price or aftermarket price or even how many people have the same doll wouldn't matter to me. I might be irritated if my dream doll was Sasara and I bought her and they re-released her promptly, but not because it makes her less valuable. I'd mostly be upset I didn't get the cheaper price!

At the end of the day, I don't care what the value of my doll is. If I bought a limited it would be because I love her, how much her actual price or aftermarket price or even how many people have the same doll wouldn't matter to me. I might be irritated if my dream doll was Sasara and I bought her and they re-released her promptly, but not because it makes her less valuable. I'd mostly be upset I didn't get the cheaper price!

 

That's exactly what I think. I feel like that right now because my dream girl is Tamaki.

Not sure they will ever rerelease ToHeart girls though.

Realisitically speaking, I'd never sell one of my dolls, so in a sense the price doesn't matter once I have bought them. But my wallet would have pangs of sadness if Tamaki and Sasara were re-released right after I bought them at inflated prices. I'd be upset because I'd have spent more than I had to (which goes against my beliefs ).

I feel a lot like PrettyCranium. I'm not planning to resell my Dollfies. On the other hand, I used to collect Star Wars and Transformers, and would occasionally buy "rare" figures online at a premium, only to see it in stores a week later. Or Hasbro would reissue the same figure in new packaging (Star Wars is awful about this...). It's not that big of a deal to me when its $60 vs $20, but I've spent a lot to get Kanu, and if Volks went and reissued her, I'd feel like I could have gotten a better deal and bought her some outfits too... Or even another Dollfie... I can imagine that those thoughts have crossed the minds of anyone who shelled out for Saber Alter on the aftermarket recently.

I don't plan to sell my dollfies later but it's annoying that Saber Alter took a huge hit purely because I coulda saved that much by buying it later.

 

I'm not too bothered though as theres nothing I can do about it now!

It's not that big of a deal to me when its $60 vs $20, but I've spent a lot to get Kanu, and if Volks went and reissued her, I'd feel like I could have gotten a better deal and bought her some outfits too.

 

 

AH HA!!! Cat's out of the bag now! So Kanu is your 11th girl?? You ratbastard.... That's one heck of a way to one up me ya know.....

 

 

Billy

It's not that big of a deal to me when its $60 vs $20, but I've spent a lot to get Kanu, and if Volks went and reissued her, I'd feel like I could have gotten a better deal and bought her some outfits too.

 

 

AH HA!!! Cat's out of the bag now! So Kanu is your 11th girl?? You ratbastard.... That's one heck of a way to one up me ya know.....

 

 

Billy

 

Congrats! Did you snag that one that was on JUNGLE? If I had infinite space, I would get Kanu for sure. *sighs*

It's not that big of a deal to me when its $60 vs $20, but I've spent a lot to get Kanu, and if Volks went and reissued her, I'd feel like I could have gotten a better deal and bought her some outfits too.

 

 

AH HA!!! Cat's out of the bag now! So Kanu is your 11th girl?? You ratbastard.... That's one heck of a way to one up me ya know.....

 

 

Billy

 

Congrats! Did you snag that one that was on JUNGLE? If I had infinite space, I would get Kanu for sure. *sighs*

Yes, Kanu is 11. She's currently visiting some relatives of her's, but should get here sometime in October.

 

One of my friends contacted me with an offer to sell me Kanu for a fair price, and I couldn't resist!