Kagamine Rin & Len & New Miku outfits!*pic updated*

English pages and the lottery page are up

 

https://www.volks.co.jp/sp_d_015_newdollfie_en/?version=en

 

 

http://www.volks.co.jp/rinlen/en/

 

I originally wasn't going to bother for Ren and Lin because Volks Int'l lotteries are kind of hopeless and then on top of that, initially all I heard was "August" and assumed I'd have to pay up in August, and there's no way I'd have that kind of cash next month (if I got super lucky and won both.) But sheesh, a month long lottery, and don't have to pay up until October? Yay.

 

I'm kind of wondering if they're doing such a long lottery to gauge interest, since that particular one is JUST for Len and Rin. I wonder if they're clever enough to compile lottery entry statistics by location, like see how many people from NA entered to contribute to the decision of whether or not to bring something to Volks USA. I mean, after the last Miku lottery, which I lost, they brought a crap ton of Mikus over here, like there was no reason not to be able get one unless you just didn't have the cash, there were so many. Basically printed money for themselves.

English pages and the lottery page are up

 

https://www.volks.co.jp/sp_d_015_newdollfie_en/?version=en

 

 

http://www.volks.co.jp/rinlen/en/

 

I originally wasn't going to bother for Ren and Lin because Volks Int'l lotteries are kind of hopeless and then on top of that, initially all I heard was "August" and assumed I'd have to pay up in August, and there's no way I'd have that kind of cash next month (if I got super lucky and won both.) But sheesh, a month long lottery, and don't have to pay up until October? Yay.

 

I'm kind of wondering if they're doing such a long lottery to gauge interest, since that particular one is JUST for Len and Rin. I wonder if they're clever enough to compile lottery entry statistics by location, like see how many people from NA entered to contribute to the decision of whether or not to bring something to Volks USA. I mean, after the last Miku lottery, which I lost, they brought a crap ton of Mikus over here, like there was no reason not to be able get one unless you just didn't have the cash, there were so many. Basically printed money for themselves.

 

 

Pretty sure all lotteries in recent times have been a month long order period, its Volks new system.

 

Correct me if im wrong ^×^

I'm kind of wondering if they're doing such a long lottery to gauge interest, since that particular one is JUST for Len and Rin. I wonder if they're clever enough to compile lottery entry statistics by location, like see how many people from NA entered to contribute to the decision of whether or not to bring something to Volks USA. I mean, after the last Miku lottery, which I lost, they brought a crap ton of Mikus over here, like there was no reason not to be able get one unless you just didn't have the cash, there were so many. Basically printed money for themselves.

 

The Miku lottery was different, though, wasn't it? I thought they were just lotto'ing off unpaid Miku pre-orders... And they brought a crap ton of Mikus over here because they had a crap ton of cancelled orders?

English pages and the lottery page are up

 

https://www.volks.co.jp/sp_d_015_newdollfie_en/?version=en

 

 

http://www.volks.co.jp/rinlen/en/

 

I originally wasn't going to bother for Ren and Lin because Volks Int'l lotteries are kind of hopeless and then on top of that, initially all I heard was "August" and assumed I'd have to pay up in August, and there's no way I'd have that kind of cash next month (if I got super lucky and won both.) But sheesh, a month long lottery, and don't have to pay up until October? Yay.

 

I'm kind of wondering if they're doing such a long lottery to gauge interest, since that particular one is JUST for Len and Rin. I wonder if they're clever enough to compile lottery entry statistics by location, like see how many people from NA entered to contribute to the decision of whether or not to bring something to Volks USA. I mean, after the last Miku lottery, which I lost, they brought a crap ton of Mikus over here, like there was no reason not to be able get one unless you just didn't have the cash, there were so many. Basically printed money for themselves.

 

 

Pretty sure all lotteries in recent times have been a month long order period, its Volks new system.

 

Correct me if im wrong ^×^

 

Well if it is the new thing it's just Volks Int'l. The Volks USA ones happen so fast sometimes you really have to pay attention.

I'm kind of wondering if they're doing such a long lottery to gauge interest, since that particular one is JUST for Len and Rin. I wonder if they're clever enough to compile lottery entry statistics by location, like see how many people from NA entered to contribute to the decision of whether or not to bring something to Volks USA. I mean, after the last Miku lottery, which I lost, they brought a crap ton of Mikus over here, like there was no reason not to be able get one unless you just didn't have the cash, there were so many. Basically printed money for themselves.

 

The Miku lottery was different, though, wasn't it? I thought they were just lotto'ing off unpaid Miku pre-orders... And they brought a crap ton of Mikus over here because they had a crap ton of cancelled orders?

 

I keep seeing people saying they were selling off cancelled pre-orders... but is that something Volks actually said, or just people speculating and spread around as fact? I'm just a little skeptical of that because it didn't seem like Volks Int'l last Miku lottery had a super high win rate, and also Volks USA did have to restock Miku at least a couple of times. Also Snow Miku pre-orders sold out initially, but then after a bit they opened them up to be practically unlimited as far as I could tell. If cancelled pre-orders were such a big problem, they would not have done that.

Volks never explicitly states anything about their business practices , but the timeline makes it pretty obvious:

 

Japanese/International Pre-Order:

Original Pre-Order Period: Sept 28, 2013 thru Dec 1, 2013

Original Delivery Period: Oct 20, 2014 thru Jan 31, 2015 (delivered in multiple waves)

 

VolksUSA Pre-Order:

Original Pre-Order Period: Sept 29, 2013 thru Dec 1, 2013

Original Deliver Period: December 2014 thru March 2015

 

Additional Releases:

Sept 4, 2015 thru Sept 7, 2015 (Magical Mirai Web Lottery, Limited Qty)

July 2, 2016 thru July 5, 2016 (Anime Expo 2015 Order, Limited Qty)

Feb 6, 2016 thru Feb 21, 2016 (Snow Miku Event Web Lottery, Limited Qty)

May 6, 2016 thru June 10, 2016 (Miku Expo Order, Limited Qty)

June 27, 2016 thru July 10, 2016 (Anime Expo 2016 Order, Limited Qty)

There might be more, but those are the ones I remember and can verify.

 

All of the re-releases came after the original pre-order batches delivered, so either Volks put Miku back into production (seems unlikely?) or they're selling off cancelled pre-orders and/or did a production overrun of Miku. I'm not sure which lottery you entered, but it may be that they only released a small number of Mikus for each lottery because they were reserving some quantities of Miku for future events.

 

For Snow Miku:

Special "Early Delivery": Feb 7, 2015 thru Feb 11, 2015 (limited to Japan only, in-store pre-order and special web lotto)

Normal Pre-Order: Feb 14, 2015 thru April 12, 2015

 

I dug back through this forum, and crawled the web, and couldn't find anything mentioning that her pre-order had ever sold out. I think you're perhaps remembering the original "early delivery" which did "sell out" in the sense that it had a very small window that closed quickly, and then the normal pre-order opened later? But that was always the plan -- the "early delivery" batch was always advertised as "earlier than the regular pre-orders," so it's not that the "early delivery" batch did so well that they suddenly decided to open up regular pre-orders -- they were always planning on doing regular/unlimited pre-orders, even before they started the "early delivery" order period.

I dug back through this forum, and crawled the web, and couldn't find anything mentioning that her pre-order had ever sold out. I think you're perhaps remembering the original "early delivery" which did "sell out" in the sense that it had a very small window that closed quickly, and then the normal pre-order opened later? But that was always the plan -- the "early delivery" batch was always advertised as "earlier than the regular pre-orders," so it's not that the "early delivery" batch did so well that they suddenly decided to open up regular pre-orders -- they were always planning on doing regular/unlimited pre-orders, even before they started the "early delivery" order period.

 

They might, at a stretch, have limited the number of *early* slots to make sure they could actually meet that early deadline, because, well, we've seen what Volks is like with preorder shipping "deadlines". But yeah, Snow Miku didn't "sell out" so much as the time span to order her overall eventually closed.

 

It may be worth bearing in mind that, in Japan, Rin and Len aren't NEARLY the guaranteed money-makers that Miku is. Between how many leftovers it looks like they had of Miku, and that the twins have less popularity, this format may well be their "once bitten, twice shy" way of playing it safe.

 

Hopefully, they'll make the DDSB body available sooner than later.

Volks published guide for those who want to preorder Rin/Len on Dolpa: http://s.ameblo.jp/blog-dd/entry-12184631939.html

That was nice of them - since my friend is going in my place, although she's eager to see Dolpa she mentioned being a bit worried about messing up somehow. To be honest I would as well, having never been to a Dolpa.

 

Also good to know that they're available for store collection the exact same day they get sent out for delivery - I was wondering about that, and whether some Volks stores would take longer to get them in than others (since I'm gonna pick up my Rin from the Fu kuoka store to save on shipping and also so that I get her ASAP instead of waiting around for shipping which will most definitely come when I'm at work.)

 

It's still really surreal for me to think I'm actually getting Rin though, let alone so SOON. So much that it won't sink in and I cant rest easy until I get a preorder receipt 8')

Volks published guide for those who want to preorder Rin/Len on Dolpa: http://s.ameblo.jp/blog-dd/entry-12184631939.html

Awesome

It's also my first time (I wonder if many people are also the first time to Dolpa JUST for Len/Rin? lol!) and I'm so worried too. I don't want to have spent all the money to go and then do something wrong >_<.

 

I know this is a DD forum but... does anyone have guides/infos on the other Dolpa events? I'm not sure if it will take the whole 4 hours to stand in line to order Rin/Len or if there will be some time to do other stuff. I would really love to see the dealers (maybe can pick up some eyes for them in advance ^-^) and resin one-offs :3

You won't have to line up for RinLen until 12 it says, so you could check out the other stuff before then (unless you want Tenshi no Sumika stuff, like the candy pop dresses, in which case you'll need to be in that line from the start). Not sure how long it'll take to place the order given how many people there will undoubtedly be but hopefully there's time afterwards to look around too.

 

I'm not gonna be there myself but I'm intimidated on my friend's behalf at what the crowd for the preorder might be like ._.

does anyone have guides/infos on the other Dolpa events? I'm not sure if it will take the whole 4 hours to stand in line to order Rin/Len or if there will be some time to do other stuff.

No worries. There will be PLENTY of time to do other things. Every time I went to Dolpa in the past I always got to do everything I wanted to (doll lottery, sumika, dealers, minigames, teaspace) and still have several hours in the middle of the day to leave the venue to grab some food then come back.

 

Dolpa works differently now than when I last went.. it's been simplified somewhat.

 

For the current iteration of Dolpa.. First, decide whether the new Volks outfits ("Sumika Items") or stuff from the dealers ("general admission") is more important to you at this time. Get in that line in the morning. Lines will be clearly marked with huge banners at the END, but you can verify with the event staff which is which if unsure for any reason. Whichever line you don't choose can still be done later, but all the best stuff will be sold out by that point, so that's why you need to pick which is most important to you.

 

After that first decision, you can enjoy the day how you see fit, just pay attention to the schedule to see what hours each event is open. Walk around and look at dealers, look at others' dolls in the tea space, rent a photo space for your own doll if you brought one, shop at Sumika, play charity gachapon or lottery wheel, play the string pull game, preorder Rin/Len, see the silent auctions... No problem.

 

Just be sure to pick up a bingo card sometime during the day and attend the bingo game at the very end of the day. Volks gives out fantastic prizes (including clothes, wigs, and even fullset SDs) during the bingo game.

 

The guidebook will have the schedule, event list, and hours in a nice chart for you to reference.

To those who emailed Volks about future possible pre orders or those who emailed about interest in the boy body becoming standard - did you receive any replies?

 

Im actually looking forward to the lottery now. My saving is going well, ive gotten a few friends to help me with extra entries, all i need now is some luck

You won't have to line up for RinLen until 12 it says, so you could check out the other stuff before then (unless you want Tenshi no Sumika stuff, like the candy pop dresses, in which case you'll need to be in that line from the start). Not sure how long it'll take to place the order given how many people there will undoubtedly be but hopefully there's time afterwards to look around too.

 

I'm not gonna be there myself but I'm intimidated on my friend's behalf at what the crowd for the preorder might be like ._.

 

If your friend doesn't mind random strangers s/he can stand with me XD (but she probably does, because most people do, and that's totally understandable) haha. Is she going super early to try and beat a crowd?

 

I am a bit worried because my flight into Nagoya arrives at 11am the day of (the only decent thing I could get without spending MORE than the price of a Len/Rin themselves...) so I'll probably get there late anyway. The airport and event center are like 35-40mins by car with no traffic, but on a Sunday I bet there will be tons.

 

 

does anyone have guides/infos on the other Dolpa events? I'm not sure if it will take the whole 4 hours to stand in line to order Rin/Len or if there will be some time to do other stuff.

No worries. There will be PLENTY of time to do other things. Every time I went to Dolpa in the past I always got to do everything I wanted to (doll lottery, sumika, dealers, minigames, teaspace) and still have several hours in the middle of the day to leave the venue to grab some food then come back.

 

Dolpa works differently now than when I last went.. it's been simplified somewhat.

 

For the current iteration of Dolpa.. First, decide whether the new Volks outfits ("Sumika Items") or stuff from the dealers ("general admission") is more important to you at this time. Get in that line in the morning. Lines will be clearly marked with huge banners at the END, but you can verify with the event staff which is which if unsure for any reason. Whichever line you don't choose can still be done later, but all the best stuff will be sold out by that point, so that's why you need to pick which is most important to you.

 

After that first decision, you can enjoy the day how you see fit, just pay attention to the schedule to see what hours each event is open. Walk around and look at dealers, look at others' dolls in the tea space, rent a photo space for your own doll if you brought one, shop at Sumika, play charity gachapon or lottery wheel, play the string pull game, preorder Rin/Len, see the silent auctions... No problem.

 

Just be sure to pick up a bingo card sometime during the day and attend the bingo game at the very end of the day. Volks gives out fantastic prizes (including clothes, wigs, and even fullset SDs) during the bingo game.

 

The guidebook will have the schedule, event list, and hours in a nice chart for you to reference.

 

Omg *__* thanks for the info!!!

I don't have any interest in the Sumika items (the only official Volks item I'd be interested in is DDH10 head but they're not bringing any of those, right?) so I'm good for that. I would have like to enter the lottery for Dear SD but I think I'll be getting there too late for that? I think it was a line up and pick a number type where the line closes after a certain time?

 

Thanks for the tip about bingo too!!! That's the other thing I'd most want to do besides Len/Rin/dealers. I'm glad to hear it's at the end of the day. Means more chance I might be done ordering Len/Rin and can do it. Is it open to anyone with a guidebook or only VS/VIP members? I'm a member, but my friend who might go with me is not so...

 

I think this time for me will just be a "checking it out" since it seems there's sooo much stuff I still can't really grasp yet without seeing in person first.

Omg *__* thanks for the info!!!

I don't have any interest in the Sumika items (the only official Volks item I'd be interested in is DDH10 head but they're not bringing any of those, right?) so I'm good for that.

You're welcome! I'm not sure whether there will be any DDH10 in stock at the event, but in any case it's safe to de-prioritize since you can always buy a DDH10 later. It's not a Dolpa-limited item.

 

Many of the things you get from the minigames all over Dolpa ARE things you can only get at a Dolls Party though, so you may want to bring extra yen to play these games. They cost money to participate, but you're guaranteed to get something. These are things like string pull, gacharity, and other Volks One For All games.

 

I would have like to enter the lottery for Dear SD but I think I'll be getting there too late for that? I think it was a line up and pick a number type where the line closes after a certain time?

You have to go to the Dear SD booth inside the event hall to do this (it's marked on the map in the guidebook). I looked at the Nagoya website and you're correct that it's a line-order lottery system for the Dear SDs. With your late flight you're going to be cutting it close, but you might still be able to participate.. It says that as long as you're physically present at the Dear SD booth at 12:30 then you can pull a number and participate.

 

I'm glad to hear it's at the end of the day. Means more chance I might be done ordering Len/Rin and can do it. Is it open to anyone with a guidebook or only VS/VIP members? I'm a member, but my friend who might go with me is not so...

"Unless Volks changes things" (I always have to say that!), the bingo game is always the very last thing of the day. It provides an incentive for people to stay the whole time and not leave Dolpa after they're done shopping.

 

The bingo game is open to anyone with a guidebook. You'll have to present your guidebook to the Volks staffer at the bingo card pickup table (on the map), who will snip a corner off of the book and give you your bingo card. This system is so that each person gets just one card. You can pick up your card at any time during the day, but just make sure not to lose it.

 

One of the purposes of the guidebook is to house all the entry forms you'll need for the SD One-Off lotteries, SD Quiz Game, a survey, and other similar pieces of paper for Dolpa participants. It is highly likely that the Rin/Len Preorder Forms will be in the guidebook. You could fill them out in advance, then just hand them to the Volks staffer along with your payment at the event hall. Other people will be doing the same. I really think the Rin/Len preorder will go pretty quickly because of this.

 

The only thing I can think of that was actually VS/VIP limited directly at Dolpa was the 40th Anniversary Thank-You Rose For You and Dollfie. That was a preserved (real) flower they gave out to members who won a doll at Dolpa 31 as part of their anniversary events. Each person only got one, so they scanned your VS/VIP card at pickup to track this.

 

I think this time for me will just be a "checking it out" since it seems there's sooo much stuff I still can't really grasp yet without seeing in person first.

Agreed. That's a good way to approach your first Dolpa. The event's structure will make a lot more sense (and feel less overwhelming) once you've seen everything for yourself the first time.

So, does anyone know the chances that VolksUSA will actually get these guys for preorder?

So, does anyone know the chances that VolksUSA will actually get these guys for preorder?

 

I'd say at this point, "Pretty damn low." We may, at a stretch, see a handful for lottery later, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

it's not written in the guidebook apparently but how do you suppose they're gonna do the option hands for Rin/Len? The website says something like they'll come later (and there's a decent amount of them considering all the photos of them doing peace signs etc so I doubt they come with all of them) but I really wonder how they're going to do it if the dolls themselves are as limited as they are. It wouldn't really make sense to have them sold normally/preorder when the dolls themselves arent preorder. I assumed they'd be at Dolpa but I still haven't seen any info about that, only the body stocking for Rin (with the 02 on the arm).

it's not written in the guidebook apparently but how do you suppose they're gonna do the option hands for Rin/Len?

Hmm? All the DD hands work on DD/DDS bodies. The B versions are larger, but also work on both bodies.

 

Or do you mean painted nails? I doubt they'd do those for these two since there's going to be fewer dolls than a pre-order project like Miku's.

it's not written in the guidebook apparently but how do you suppose they're gonna do the option hands for Rin/Len?

Rin comes with a pair of Hands-08 only and Len comes with Hands-06-Big only, according to their online descriptions. So, they definitely don't come with a full suite of hands. Beyond that, no further info has been provided yet as to how people will be able to get any other Rin/Len hand types.

To those who emailed Volks about future possible pre orders or those who emailed about interest in the boy body becoming standard - did you receive any replies?

 

My reply is late because I've been absent from the forums, but I thought that I should report back anyway:

 

I sent an email about Rin & Len to Volks on the 5th of July and they replied on the 21st of July.

 

I pretty much only got a generic reply "We are really happy to receive many responses from customers who live overseas after we announced to release “Kagamine Rin / Len × Dollfie Dream® Sister” and “DDS Base Body Boy Type”." and then they listed the lottery page for Rin & Len, and also a link to the Dolpa page, although I stated in my email that I live in Finland and won't be able to attend the event... but I suppose they have the same copypaste reply for everyone. ^^;

 

About the DDS boy type body, they only said "The releases of “Boy Type” Standard Model, Base Body, and Option Parts have not been determined. We will decide considering the response of our customers." so... sadly no new info. .___.

Thanks for the reply mizya!

 

 

Its my opinion that i highly doubt they will re release the twins at a later date for pre orders.

 

They havent ever done it with any other lottery releases, have they?

 

But they might have another lottery later on in time if people show enough interest through the sheer numbers of lottery entries....with how much people say they want the twins, i don't think there would be many leftovers/unpaid orders.

 

I hope to pay for all winning entries in my accounts, either by sharing multiples with others who want them or even out of my own pocket if the back up entries all win on their own

 

 

As for DDS Boy - i think they will release him as standard eventually. As others have said it takes a lot of time, planning and $$$ to make a body so i doubt it will be a once off. ...

 

Just send friendly emails about how much you'd love the DdsB to be a standard..... just dont expect a reply anytime soon hahahahaha XD

Nope, no doll has ever moved from lottery to pre-order.

 

The closest was Snow Miku, who had "limited early orders" (they were Japan-only so I'm not sure how they were done, whether it was first-come first-serve or lotto, but they weren't part of a Dolpa event, I think they were all done in-store). However, they announced her general pre-order at the same time that they announced the "limited early orders" so it was planned as a big pre-order since the very beginning.

 

However, we have seen re-lottos before (Alisa v2, Rin v2, Sasara v2, Melty X-mas, etc.) and Rin and Len do have other canonical outfits (Senbonzakura and Transmitter/Receiver both have figure releases) so that wouldn't be impossible... Unlikely, I think, but not impossible.

Oni-chan, I wrote to Volks also, expressing interest in the DDS boy body. I amso mentioned I have been a fan of Volks Super Dollfies since 2005, and that my first one was a boy. Volks replied very quickly, replying the same to me as they did to Mizya, and they said thank you to me for being a Volks fan for such a long time.

 

I wrote to them on July 5, and they wrote me back the same day.

 

Linda S.

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it's not written in the guidebook apparently but how do you suppose they're gonna do the option hands for Rin/Len?

Rin comes with a pair of Hands-08 only and Len comes with Hands-06-Big only, according to their online descriptions. So, they definitely don't come with a full suite of hands. Beyond that, no further info has been provided yet as to how people will be able to get any other Rin/Len hand types.

That's kind of a shame seeing as they show them with so many different types of hands in all the official photos, and those definitely have painted nails. Lol that's even worse false advertising than when Azone show pictures of the doll on the box itself with hands that arent included in the set. I was hoping that they'd include options for additional hands with the preorder but they would have said something by now. I thought they'd each came with at least one other pair, although it looks like they'e just got the ones most suited to holding their respective items (the mic and keytar).

Oh well, the yellow doesn't stand out as much as Miku's cyan does so it's less of a deal if they don't have them. If it really bothers me I can just colour them myself; I gotta do that for my Kaito eventually anyway.

 

I know they're releasing the Senbonzakura outfits - but I also hope that they have plans to release more project diva outfits for them. They'd probably mostly stick to outfits that have both Rin and Len versions to release them together but I really hope they do Cheerful Candy - they could relase it alongside the Colorful Drop one for Miku. And while Transmitter/Receiver are probably my favourite Rin/Len outfits in the games, the staining possibility is pretty high.