Kagamine Rin & Len & New Miku outfits!*pic updated*

So is it sure now that Len got a male body? I can't read/speak japanese...

I'm not a huge fan of Rin's face-up (bah yellow/orange!) but I feel like her mold has a lot of potential, and I have a weakness for DDS... Looking forward to move photos, I may be sunk -- or I may be safe!

If Len is (hopefully) on a male body and it's a DDS, I am for sure getting him b/c he's perfect for a character of mine.

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

 

I never thought I would see this day!!

 

I'm loving Rin too!! she is adorable

 

I can see some resemblance to Miku, the eyes are very similar (shape and color) but it looks like they are normal skin? I hope so!

 

If it is a preorder I will definitely get Len because I want to support the first male DD!!

 

I want to see more pics of the boy body though!

 

@Cauldroness: I'm not a fan of the yellow/orange themed face up either. Knowing myself, if I get Len he won't keep his default looks. I will probably give him a new face up or at least modify it and change his hair to black and get him new eyes...who knows, some part of me says that I don't want another blond-blue eyed boy and another part of me says that he could be like a brother to my Miku boy

I was just casually keeping tabs on them, but AUUUGH I feel like I've been POLEAXED BY CUTENESS. Both of them are adorable!

 

Also, is it just me, or do the two of them have subtly different head molds? Was hoping for that, but wasn't counting on it. However, Len looks like his chin's just a little bit longer and his eyes a hair narrower.

They look amazing! If I could I could only get one, but it'd be a pretty difficult desicion as they both look perfect!

 

Although for all my Kagamine dreams to come true, I wanna see them do costumes for Daughter and Servant of Evil as optional outfits.

I was just casually keeping tabs on them, but AUUUGH I feel like I've been POLEAXED BY CUTENESS. Both of them are adorable!

 

Also, is it just me, or do the two of them have subtly different head molds? Was hoping for that, but wasn't counting on it. However, Len looks like his chin's just a little bit longer and his eyes a hair narrower.

 

Yeah I thought the same though, Rin has noticeably rounder cheek than Len's. To add to your point Len seems to have wider mouth than Rin's. I've been on a little debate with some people over the internet, in the defense that they're not the same sculpt. But it might be the face up trick though. Can't tell for sure, really looking forward for more prototype photoshoot!

Just as I was thinking about converting to Smart Doll, this comes out! They look soooo adorable, I love that they look like they'll be in normal skin unlike Miku, and oh my god. They're beautiful. If I had a choice to get either, I wouldn't be able to decide.

I still really want Smart Doll Eiji (especially after seeing torino's cute pics of her Kaito), so I think I'll go ahead and get him, and see how everything goes money-wise...Perhaps I'll be able to get these two from the aftermarket some day. But for now, just as I've been doing with Miku, I will stalk photos of them that people post online and admire them :3

Oh no... they're even cuter than I had hoped for!! I'm so excited for Len, I'm absolutely going to preorder him.. I can't wait to see more information on his body! I kept Miku as her Vocaloid self, but I don't think Len will stay Len. *-* I'm so excited.

Just as I was thinking about converting to Smart Doll, this comes out! They look soooo adorable, I love that they look like they'll be in normal skin unlike Miku, and oh my god. They're beautiful. If I had a choice to get either, I wouldn't be able to decide.

I still really want Smart Doll Eiji (especially after seeing torino's cute pics of her Kaito), so I think I'll go ahead and get him, and see how everything goes money-wise...Perhaps I'll be able to get these two from the aftermarket some day. But for now, just as I've been doing with Miku, I will stalk photos of them that people post online and admire them :3

 

I can sorta relate to your situation. Currently on a saving mode for a resin BJD. But then I saw Len I was like "crap, how could I forgot about him!". Ugh.. just another 'original plan' to scratch. I've totally decided to go for Len, thinking he'd be more fit to keep my girl a company. He'd be a good little bro I really need to get him directly from Volks because with Len being their first male I couldn't imagine the after market price. If I don't get him from Volks I might never be able to get him. *looksatthatsaberlilyandsobs* QuQ;

I did a very quick and lazy overlay, since I'm working and don't have access to my personal photoediting software, and I do think they are the same mold.

 

Here's Len layered on top of Rin, 50% transparency, followed by a close-up.

~ Jaw and nose seem to be a perfect match, cheek is a little hard to tell because of the hair but seems a match (note they both have weird blue-ish shadows on their outer cheeks, that blue patch isn't the overlay not matching up, it's the shadow)

~ The difference in mouth seems to be caused by the painting style -- Len's lip line extends farther and curves up later than Rin's but the lip shape does seem to be the same

~ It looks like Rin may have a larger eyes, probably 24mm, while Len has smaller eyes, probably 22mm, but as I slid the transparency scale back and forth, the size and shape of the eyewhite didn't seem to change

 

 

 

Some small things to note: I don't think they were shot at the exact same angle, I think Rin was shot from a little lower and Len from a little higher, also I had to resize Len's photo (slightly bigger than Rin), also I probably should have tilted Len's photo a little but didn't (lazy/wrong software).

Edited June 24, 2016 by Guest

Well, that's my theory trounced!

Oh, I thought they were different sculpts but now I'm not sure

At first I also thought that they were different sculpts (I guess I was too busy being excited lol) but... after seeing your overlay, Cauldroness, and comparing the images more carefully, it does seem like they're the same sculpt after all. o_ó Volks did a good job with their face ups, enough to throw plenty of us off, haha~ xD

 

Although, even if they ended up being the same sculpt, I'm afraid I'm still going to want them both - even if usually I'm not that keen on owning two of the same sculpt. They're just too cute~ =A=;; Well, I did get two of DDH-06, too, ahah...

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!

 

I woke up to Raven saying "There have been new posts in the Rin & Len thread."

Me: "Is there pictures??"

Raven: "Yep."

Me: *huge gasp*

Raven: "And they said something about body types..." *face is completely expressionless*

Me: "IS LEN A BOY???" *yelling nearly at the top of my lungs*

Raven: *cracks a grin* "He's said to have a DDS boy body."

Me: *starts scrambling for my tablet, still groggy and can't get it open, stares at the icons and can't even remember what I'm supposed to be opening*

 

 

The first moment I saw Rin's pic I started to tear up. THIS is the girl who's been running around in my head for months, phone in hand, constantly taking pictures of everything as long as she's in it. The same 'Little Miss Selfie' that was annoyed/shocked at me a few days ago when I remembered I have a (kinda crappy) camera on my tablet and couldn't imagine how I could have ever forgotten. I was never a big fan of Rin in general because most people seem to like her when she's being a brat/mean (I hate servant of evil) but had to stop and figure out what I'd do with her because we couldn't have Len, Miku, and Kiyoteru so far without Rin. It would just be too weird. I also told Raven very early on that she would be my girl. His other three girls are difficult for me because at least 85% of their personalities has been figured out by me over time and trying to guess what Raven would do. I didn't want that to happen to Rin as well since Len is going to be a BIG part of Tama's life.

 

Speaking of Mr. Kagamine, my reaction to his pic was entirely different. I'm a little disappointed that they went more for the mature boy boy look instead of in the cute direction. My first thoughts were that he looked grouchy. Not the type of look of a boy prancing around in his bedroom, wiggling his hips as he does a sassy 'cat walk' dance like he does in Project Diva. After looking at his pic multiple times already, having a small alteration to the lines of his mouth would help a LOT to fix that. For my personal preferance I wish the eyebrows were raised just a little more, but I don't have the confidance to redo it and have him still match Rin well enough. BUT since I've dealt with multiple preorders in the 4+ years we've been in the hobby, there are always alterations to the faceups beteen the initial promo pics and the finished DD. Most recent case in point is Sheryl Nome and her mouth. THIS is my Len (sorry for the crummy pic.) I see Len more like the grown up verson of 'Where's My Pants?" Len, not some serious 'mature' guy. Besides, I don't think our Miku would let him be one anyway, and that SURELY is NOT how Tama sees him! And Prince Tama almost always gets his way. Ugh, now I need to make a cosplay for Tama since Len is a reality now and I'll need it for the twins' intro story. At least that's ALL I'll need to make!

 

Part of me is still stunned that Tama was my first DD and now Len (his idol) is the first official DD boy. I try not to think about it too much or I might start crying (happens way too easily these days.) Anotther part of me is really amused that Volks could have made Rin & Len DD but made them DDS instead. Lucas is a DDS hybrid so I would deffinately try his current bust on Len's body to see how it looks because i doubt Len would be that muscular. Lucas' weirdly sticking out hips is odd to say the least and only one of the reasons why you'd never find him in skintight clothing.

 

Part of me really hopes that Len has normal DDS hands, not because I think they would work better but simply because of the cost. 2 sets of hands with yellow fingernails would add about $400 to the cost of the DD based on Miku's extra hands being about half that. Since I already have the Large Ver. hands on Lucas, I know that they really do work well for 'manly' hands.

 

With Rin & Len being MY first official Vocaloid DD, I'm really afraid of what these two are really going to cost me... The Fullset I know what to count on *looks at her Snow Miku recipt* but these very well may be the first DD that I can't resist getting their clothes too, and with them being twins the cost is doubled. I have already seen many of their Project Diva outfits... and I already want them all, even the Zenzosomethingorother outfits.

 

Since I got my Snow Miku shipping conformation this morning as well, I have the looming problem of what to do with two Miku heads... One may be accounted for but the other I dunno.

 

Miku: "You could take one, paint it white so it looks like a skull and use it for a dice cup!" (Raven told me that one and he said even for her it seemed a bit morbid! LOL!)

 

Oh, and before I forget, I've compared the pics to Miku and it deffinately looks like the twins have a unique sculpt. Not surprising since Volks doesn't skimp on the headsculpts but it was a concern of mine. Their eyes are more wide open and they don't seem to have the curve in the mouth like she does.

 

Please forgive me for the typos and dyslexic spelling. My tablet only corrects it some of the time, and sometimes the autocorrect butts in where it shouldn't.

 

~Sister Kyoya

 

 

 

It's hard to see but len's & rins eye shape is NOT the same. Rin's eyes are more rounded and a bit bigger. Len & miku are the same as they are both smaller and more pointed

 

It's sad that len and miku has the same head mold

Welp, I wasn't expecting to be this excited but here I am, sufficiently excited to make an account in order to express my excitement. >__<

 

Rin and Len aren't my favorite Vocaloids voice-wise, but I really like the dolls. In particular, Rin. Her face sculpt looks ideal for a character from another series that Volks and Smartdoll will almost certainly never make, and the fact that she is a normal skin DDS makes it even more perfect. Heck, even the default eyes are pretty close.

 

Oh man. I hope she is preorderable...

I'm screaming my SQUEE internally today.

 

Len Kagamine, one of my favorite characters of all time, is finally in doll form.

I've been watching this thread like a hawk. Can't handle thiiiiiiis haha!

Sad thing is (for my wallet, not my inner fangirl!) I feel like I have to get Rin too, to keep the two halves together.

I hope hope hope that they make their Append outfits. They are complicated, so I don't know if they would.

 

I don't even care what the body ends up looking like, it's Lennnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

The slight difference between Rin & Len could be just be how the picture was taken, or they could be minorly different.

 

As for Len having the Miku sculpt, he does not. Looking at my husband's actual Miku, her lips have a distinct upward curve in the middle that Len does not. His distinctly goes down and no accouting for just a line of paint could convert one to the other.Miku also has distinctively more pointed (inner) corners of her eyes that Len also does not.

 

As snarky as I may get about Volks and the odd ways they do things more often than I'd like, If Rin has a unique sculpt, they wouldn't just slap Len with Muku's head. I'm still unsure if Rin and Len have the same sculpt or not, but they do not have Miku's sculpt.

 

~Sister Kyoya

Whelp. Looks like I'm stuck on the saving train because I need a Len in my life and probably also Rin (UGH why are they both so perfect???).

I was never a big fan of Rin in general because most people seem to like her when she's being a brat/mean (I hate servant of evil)

 

See, I always pictured most "story" Vocaloid songs as the Vocaloids being "cast" in the roles, like actors--and in the case of Daughter and Servant of Evil, Rin's hamming it up because let's be honest, villains are fun to play even when you aren't evil yourself, and often get the best songs.

 

Actually, mixing the fun-loving aspect I picture with the "Little Miss Selfie" persona you picked, SK, I'm now imagining Rin as a younger Grav3yardgirl/Bunny, doing bizarre, goofy videos all the time. Some DD-size makeup palettes and As Seen on TV gadgetry may be in order. . .

 

Speaking of Mr. Kagamine, my reaction to his pic was entirely different. I'm a little disappointed that they went more for the mature boy boy look instead of in the cute direction. My first thoughts were that he looked grouchy.

 

Personally, I didn't get grouchy at all--just a hair more reserved than Rin, perhaps. But still, faceup can go a loooong way to changing an expression, *especially* on a DD. And hey, no one says that their faceups need to match super-close--if anything, I find Len's thick eyelashes a little silly for a preteen/13-year-old boy, myself. Their similar (or possibly identical) head molds will go a long way to making Rin and Len look like siblings as it is.

 

And Prince Tama almost always gets his way. Ugh, now I need to make a cosplay for Tama since Len is a reality now and I'll need it for the twins' intro story. At least that's ALL I'll need to make!

 

YESSSSSS.

 

That is all I have to say about THAT.

 

I do think the twins are adorable, but not sure it'll be in the budget to go after one of them, much less both, since I"m trying so hard to save up for a down payment to get out of this rental trap. >.< Even if I did, there's no guarantee they'd stay Rin and Len in my hands, either. Actually, there's a not-entirely-insignificant chance of turning Len into Movie-1 Hiccup from How to Train Your Dragon. XD (What? There's a LOT of dragons in my home, I'm kinda overdue for a dragon handler.)

@pscindy_13: I think what you're seeing is the effect of Len having more eyewhite visible on the inner corner of his eyes, which could be a difference in how they position the eyes or a difference in the size of the eyes, or both. What I see, you traced the outline of Len's eyewhites and the outline of Rin's pupil, but if you zoom in very close, you can see Rin has an sliver of eyewhite inside of her pupil before the resin starts.

 

Right here, just a little bit of eyewhite:

 

Outlined here:

 

I did a rough outline of Rin's eye, then copied and pasted that on top of Len's eye. The result isn't 100% perfect, but again -- I don't think the photos are taken at exactly the same angle, so 100% is basically impossible. However, it's close enough to convince me that they're the exact same mold unless Volks announces differently.

 

 

The red circle in both photos is exactly the same -- I did not alter shape, size, angle, all I did was copy & paste and line it up.

Personally, I didn't get grouchy at all--just a hair more reserved than Rin, perhaps. But still, faceup can go a loooong way to changing an expression, *especially* on a DD. And hey, no one says that their faceups need to match super-close--if anything, I find Len's thick eyelashes a little silly for a preteen/13-year-old boy, myself. Their similar (or possibly identical) head molds will go a long way to making Rin and Len look like siblings as it is.

Part of what I ment to say was that I'm not surprised that they went that direction, it's just not what I was looking for. Those eyebrows... Looking at Len on Project Diva again, even compared to that they seem heavy! I was expecting something more like Miku's but in a darker yellow. Having them be two colors just look odd at the moment. #Nitpicky

 

And Prince Tama almost always gets his way. Ugh, now I need to make a cosplay for Tama since Len is a reality now and I'll need it for the twins' intro story. At least that's ALL I'll need to make!

 

YESSSSSS.

 

That is all I have to say about THAT.

It won't be a Len cosplay (if that's what you were thinking) but someone Len would surely know. I have not forgotten about the wereLen though... just might need to be rethought a bit.

 

Actually, there's a not-entirely-insignificant chance of turning Len into Movie-1 Hiccup from How to Train Your Dragon. XD (What? There's a LOT of dragons in my home, I'm kinda overdue for a dragon handler.)

I think he would be adorable if you are able to do it.

 

FINALLY we have the real beginning of an influx of non-hybrid DD BOYS!!! Trust me it gets exhausting having hybrids because (of course) none of the companies want to see pics of hybrids or promote said pics. So you end up feeling like you are having a party by yourself in the corner and not being able to share anything. Even simple things like clothing. Volks better make an MDD boy after this or I will go on a rampage. Tama would have been 100% Volks from the beginning if they simply had one. #StillWaiting

 

As for the eyes, all I'm going to say is camera angle and eye placement. This could just be one of those things that we won't know until we can see the details on their stats, or once we can see them in person. What I was personally debating was that the inner eye between the Kagamines and MIKU were vastly different. Between the twins I'm still undecided.

 

~Sister Kyoya

Yeah, if they ARE different, then one of them was probably modified off the other head mold, so close as to basically make no nevermind. (Like Etheldreda and Al Azif, who look pretty much the same but have different head mold numbers--seems there's some super-subtle difference in their eye shape.)

I think they do look quite similar to Miku, which only makes sense, as they're all in the same franchise -- the goal is probably to make them all follow the same aesthetic, so they look like a coherent group when they're put all together.

 

All that said, I'm agreeing with Sister Kyoya -- Miku is a different sculpt from Rin/Len.

 

I think we also have a pretty clear history of Volks using the same sculpt, different face-ups, and different names:

- Moe & Natsuki

- Cheryl & Femi

- Mirai & Candy

- Feena & Erika & Estel

- Nanoha & Fate

 

So it would be pretty par for the course for Volks to use the same headmold for two different characters.