Nier Automata x Dollfie Dream

I imagine the early Snow Mikus were probably to coincide with the actual Snow Miku event in February..... if at least some people got them in January they’d have them in time for that. I didn’t know about that but it’s probably why it only happened with her.

 

I don’t care how long I have to wait for 9S. It’s still a shorter turnaround than a lot of GSC figures. Guess I’m just used to that. I see literally nothing to complain about here unless Volks want upfront payment, since the main advantage of the wait time is all the time for saving. (Well I could complain a lot about not getting to have a spiffy September Volks News with 2B in doll form on the cover with a beautiful holographic finish like past September issues but that’s Squeenix’s fault)

Edit: the other main drawback is it’s enabling me to think I can afford 2B as well >< at least if I change my mind after she’s released preorder dolls aren’t so expensive on aftermarket....

So 2.5 years+ from initial announcement to in hand? Yeah, I've got no patience for these shenanigans.

 

No, 13 - 16 months total wait from the start of the project, sorry if that wasn’t clear. Altria starts shipping 4 weeks from now for those who pay quickly, and Jeanne should be 1 - 2 months after.

 

Sorry if I wasn't clear, either. Initial announcement was May 2017, so with the 13-16 month wait after pre-orders end, that's where I'm getting the 2.5+ years.

They were announced in Sept 2017, and delivery is starting mid October 2018 for Altria, and late Nov 2018 for Jeanne. That’s a year and 2 months total unless you hold off on paying till the last minute; then it could be a year and 4 months.

Oh, I was talking about 2B's length of total time on this.

 

Anyway, congrats to whoever's buying her and/or 9S. I think I'm done.

Oh, I was talking about 2B's length of total time on this.

 

Anyway, congrats to whoever's buying her and/or 9S. I think I'm done.

 

Ah, now this makes more sense.

 

This was an unusual announcement. Usually it’s only a year, but Volks seems to have put this one out there early to head off their competition. I’m sure for a lot of folks waiting another year isn’t what they wanted to hear. Still to me the year is going to pass anyways, so why not have a Nier DD or two waiting to greet you at the other end of time’s passage?

No offense but I don’t get why there are some people are acting like Volks are at fault for the wait time. You don’t know what goes on behind the scenes or how far in advance they get licenses to any doll - the only difference here is that we heard about it so early. Stuff like announcements and releases and other weird specifics are often dictated by the license-holder. You see this kind of thing frequently in the figure hobby (which I might add has way more brutal wait-times and frequently has items that never see the light of day even when a prototype is made) where some figures are teased years in advance and some literally pop up on amiami for preorder with absolutely no prior notice they were in the works. It’s generally always the license-holder that dictates that, not GSC/Kotobukiya/whoever.

 

And when it’s a company so famously precious about its IPs as Square, I’ve little doubt about it. I mean sheesh they wouldn’t even let Volks reveal them in their *own magazine* because it was that important to them to do it at their event. I still think a lot of the wait time was stain-test related but I also think a lot of the things people are annoyed about is Square’s doing, not Volks’s.

 

Just kinda bums me out seeing Volks criticized for ‘how they handled things’ just because we got an announcement earlier than normal. This isn’t a hobby for impatient people and the preorder project has always had a lengthy release time in order to accommodate the -sheer volume- of orders it receives, given that the orders are open for a month or so. (But again, with the increase in production time lately it could be a little faster, but the full sets are sure to be quite elaborate so I wouldn’t be expecting any major change)

Edited September 13, 2018 by Guest

No doubt of that. Flare's 2B figure (https://myfigurecollection.net/item/549472) has also taken a crazy path to production, and still isn't up for order yet. While she has been shown at Wonder Festival like most figures, she's been shown more at SQEX events. She's also been shown in weird half-painted states, something I've never seen with any other scale figure, which to me says she was being shown when SQEX dictated, not when Flare wanted to. Admittedly, Flare is one of the slower companies with figures in general, but this is out of the ordinary even for them.

Just kinda bums me out seeing Volks criticized for ‘how they handled things’ just because we got an announcement earlier than normal.

 

Just for the record my comment wasn't intended as criticism in any way. I was just trying to say things played out the way they did, and as long as time is marching on and dragging us along with it, we have nothing to lose by taking the long view.

 

Frankly, I saw a lot of earlier comments from people who wanted this to be the pre-order. They really want 2B/9S, wanted time to save, and don't want to have to get them after market at absurd prices.

 

Nier isn't really my thing, although I want to see what 2B looks like before deciding if I am in or out, but I was happy for a lot of people that they were finally announced and that they would be easy to get.

 

 

Totally separate subject, but who wants to bet 9S will end up looking good as a girl with the right faceup? XD

@Wolf I certainly didn't see your comments that way and wasn't talking about you, no worries. I more meant that there seems to be people who only come here to complain.

 

9S is a very pretty boy so absolutely -continues counting down until the 17th-

The real question is will they make 9S grumpy?

 

Kirito and Len both look grumpy, and Torino, your new faceup makes Mel look even more grumpy.

The real question is will they make 9S grumpy?

 

Kirito and Len both look grumpy, and Torino, your new faceup makes Mel look even more grumpy.

Mel is a tsundere little git, so he has to look grumpy. And Kirito looks less grumpy to me and more Shonen Protag Determined Face which seems to be how he looks in most art.

(as for why Len looked grumpy to begin with, I dont know, but I'm thankful for the perfect sculpt lol. maybe its because he costs 5000 more than Rin. That made me grumpy anyway.)

 

9S I would hope to look more sad than grumpy, but I hope for a neutral expression on both of them.

@Wolf I certainly didn't see your comments that way and wasn't talking about you, no worries. I more meant that there seems to be people who only come here to complain.

 

9S is a very pretty boy so absolutely -continues counting down until the 17th-

 

Ok, that's a relief.

 

Given Volks track record of making very feminine boys I think it will be very interesting to see how 9S turns out.

 

On the subject of SE and their licensing I couldn't throw money at Volks fast enough if they made a DD out of Yuna from FF-X. Bonus points if they made extras of the standard and pop-idol outfits from X-2 along with her wig.

 

Hopefully Neir won't be their last collaboration with SE. There are seriously a lot of SE properties that could get the DD treatment. They always make the most beautiful looking RPGs.

While this will never happen, a Valkyrie Profile DD would be awesome.

While this will never happen, a Valkyrie Profile DD would be awesome.

I'll end up becoming a real life Lezard Valeth in that case.

Coming back to this thread after playing Nier since yesterday The excitement is real and so is my need to take a walk.

 

As a fellow figure collector, Volks' wait times are a blink in comparison. I'd say more, but Torino said everything I would have.

 

Frankly, this release is such a big deal they could make us wait another 2 and we'd probably still buy it in the end. SE giving their license to anyone to make merch is a big deal on its own, so... shh. It's a good step forward for Volks as a company, don't get wrapped up in impatience and self.

 

I really hope this won't be the last collab with SE either. So many loved characters I'm sure we'd all want to get out hands on. Especially now with the availability of both younger and older boy DD. I'm not a FF fan by any means but I'd get pretty excited about a Noctis if they made him :3

IDK, I see a lot of reluctance to criticize doll companies for some reason. Both smart dolls and Volks. I think it's okay to air grievances. Just because it is doesn't mean it ought to be and you can voice opinions respectfully. This wait from announcement to unveiling seems very long objectively, and I can see how that could be the license holder's fault. No idea why they would want it that early tho? That's so weird. I'm excited to see what they'll look like when they finally come out! I'm a little worried because Luka and Sailor Moon were kinda misses sculpt-wise. But hopefully they'll pull through!

While this will never happen, a Valkyrie Profile DD would be awesome.

 

 

Oh gods, Hrist in her armor.

 

IDK, I see a lot of reluctance to criticize doll companies for some reason. Both smart dolls and Volks. I think it's okay to air grievances. Just because it is doesn't mean it ought to be and you can voice opinions respectfully. This wait from announcement to unveiling seems very long objectively, and I can see how that could be the license holder's fault. No idea why they would want it that early tho? That's so weird. I'm excited to see what they'll look like when they finally come out! I'm a little worried because Luka and Sailor Moon were kinda misses sculpt-wise. But hopefully they'll pull through!

 

There's a difference between airing a grievance and pointing blame in the wrong place and spreading misinformation. This hobby has a bad habit of spreading misinformation and misdirecting blame. We didn't say anyone couldn't vent, but knowing what you're venting about is necessary IMO or if you're unsure, doing do constructively/openly. Otherwise it's just complaining. I don't get upset because people vent, I get upset when people don't think things through or don't ask if they're unsure. That's just me. Not speaking for anyone else. Too many people believe whatever they read and repeat things to others. I see this a lot more on the resin side of the hobby though, so the fear/defense I have over here is mostly because of the extreme on the other side >_<

 

I personally loved Sailor Moon but I see why people didn't. Luka is pretty on her own, but not as Luka. There's been just *something* off about a lot of DD releases lately. I hesitate to say they're rushing, but a lot of them seem to not have gotten as much passion and thought as other releases. Some things are small details, like Matoi's eyes. Sailor Moon's eyes. Luka's expression. Sometimes makeup.

 

Crossing my fingers that Volks put a lot of time and love into these Nier dolls. So we'll see. I don't want to get picky about them, but I'm hoping the materials on her dress are good. Kaede's accessories really threw me off. It looks like cheap painted plastic and she deserves at least a glossier paint than that xD Hoping 2B's outfit has all the right proportions... hoping 9S has shiny buttons :/

While this will never happen, a Valkyrie Profile DD would be awesome.

Oh gods, Hrist in her armor.

Yeah, something like that was what I was thinking of.

 

I really hope this won't be the last collab with SE either. So many loved characters I'm sure we'd all want to get out hands on. Especially now with the availability of both younger and older boy DD. I'm not a FF fan by any means but I'd get pretty excited about a Noctis if they made him :3

I was thinking about Noctis and others in the FFXV crew earlier. So far, Volks has made "girlish boy" DDs...I'm not putting them down; it's appropriate for the characters they've made, but I think it would be very interesting to see how they would do the boy equivalent of the more mature girl DD sculpts like Takane, Sheryl, or Matoi.

 

Crossing my fingers that Volks put a lot of time and love into these Nier dolls. So we'll see. I don't want to get picky about them, but I'm hoping the materials on her dress are good. Kaede's accessories really threw me off. It looks like cheap painted plastic and she deserves at least a glossier paint than that xD Hoping 2B's outfit has all the right proportions... hoping 9S has shiny buttons :/

 

I hope their Nier DDs are everything they should be given how long folks have waited for this announcement to get to this point, and that it's still only half way to finish.

 

Some of this is probably getting way off topic, and it's not intended in a hostile way. I just wanted to give my opinion on this.

 

I can't really comment on Luka since I don't follow the Vocaloids outside of DD. I liked her as a DD so I got her.

 

As far as Kaede's accessories go I think there are two issues with metal parts. 1) They are heavy. 2) They will scratch the vinyl. Things like those hairclips have to stay in the hair without damaging the wig, so they get made from lightweight plastic.

 

To give another example, the weapons that are coming with the new Saberface pre-orders have to be pose-able in the hands. They are going to be made from lightweight plastic, look like plastic swords, and that's just the way of it. So do Asuna and Saber Lily's swords and the dolls look great with them.

 

Sailor Moon's eyes were way off to me, but some people saw Princess Serenity and felt she looked right.

 

Part of the problem in my mind is people's expectation meets reality, and then reality falls short. I think it can help to keep in mind that the dolls face sculpt is probably going to look different from a polygonal model used in a PS game, or a painted cell in an anime.

As far as Kaede's accessories go I think there are two issues with metal parts. 1) They are heavy. 2) They will scratch the vinyl. Things like those hairclips have to stay in the hair without damaging the wig, so they get made from lightweight plastic.

 

Part of the problem in my mind is people's expectation meets reality, and then reality falls short. I think it can help to keep in mind that the dolls face sculpt is probably going to look different from a polygonal model used in a PS game, or a painted cell in an anime.

 

Oh no, I definitely didn't mean metal (unless you're speaking generally). Metal is heavy and breaks easier than plastic if it's not thick. But I stand by them using a paint that looks more like metal. The paint has no shine or glimmer to it and is very obviously spray painted for the colored parts. It just *looks* like plastic. A simple paint change would have fixed that. It needs some depth to it, some shine, some smoothing, something else. I had the same feelings about the stars on Miku's Twinkle Star outfit which is why I didn't buy it. They just look like plastic. Volks outfits are too well made and too high quality for it. It's almost distracting. There's a difference between the accessories and the weapons though. The weapons are larger, they have more depth to them, more colors and generally more shine to them as well. Usually a harder plastic too so that helps. They look great. The accessories fall short. (Side note I hope 2B comes with her sword )

 

It's hard to make 2D faces into into 3D, but Volks mostly does a good job in the shape of things. Sometimes the faceups they have can be a little more... eventful. Otherwise I think they do a wonderful job.

Oh no, I definitely didn't mean metal (unless you're speaking generally). Metal is heavy and breaks easier than plastic if it's not thick. But I stand by them using a paint that looks more like metal. The paint has no shine or glimmer to it and is very obviously spray painted for the colored parts. It just *looks* like plastic. A simple paint change would have fixed that. It needs some depth to it, some shine, some smoothing, something else. I had the same feelings about the stars on Miku's Twinkle Star outfit which is why I didn't buy it. They just look like plastic. Volks outfits are too well made and too high quality for it. It's almost distracting. There's a difference between the accessories and the weapons though. The weapons are larger, they have more depth to them, more colors and generally more shine to them as well. Usually a harder plastic too so that helps. They look great. The accessories fall short. (Side note I hope 2B comes with her sword )

I agree with this completely. In Kaede's case, they seem to have done a great job with the cloth parts of her outfit, but the plastic stuff looks cheap and brings it down. It's especially disappointing because it's painted silver. From the pictures so far of Saber and Jeanne's armor, they painted (or perhaps it's just molded) silver with painted on black/gray for shading and it looks like metal or at least a reasonable facsimile of metal.

 

Maybe I'm just too picky, but I think a lot of the little plastic bits Volks uses on outfits bring them down. Those jewel (whatever) bits on Kaede's casual outfit don't look too good to me. I was disappointed with those plastic bead things that are on Sheryl Nome's default hat, and similar adornments I see in pictures on various outfits.

 

Yeah 2B needs her sword too.

Coming back to this thread after playing Nier since yesterday The excitement is real and so is my need to take a walk.

 

As a fellow figure collector, Volks' wait times are a blink in comparison. I'd say more, but Torino said everything I would have.

 

Frankly, this release is such a big deal they could make us wait another 2 and we'd probably still buy it in the end. SE giving their license to anyone to make merch is a big deal on its own, so... shh. It's a good step forward for Volks as a company, don't get wrapped up in impatience and self.

 

I really hope this won't be the last collab with SE either. So many loved characters I'm sure we'd all want to get out hands on. Especially now with the availability of both younger and older boy DD. I'm not a FF fan by any means but I'd get pretty excited about a Noctis if they made him :3

 

*de-cloaks from lurking*

 

An interesting thing I found the other day is apparently they have a custom 2B DD from the band Amazarashi at the Square Enix cafe and have had it for at least the last year and a half. I don't know what the base head is though. Could it be DDH-7? edit: Looking at it some more I bet it's Saber Alter.

 

(In Japanese but more pictures) https://www.inside-games.jp/article/2017/03/25/106091.html

 

https://bunnytokyo.com/2017/03/30/nier-automata-collaboration-at-square-enix-cafe-akihabara/

 

It even appears on Know Your Meme under "Reminder that we will never get this as official merchandise" https://knowyourmeme.com/photos/1233828-nier-automata

 

It is absolutely big that they are working with Volks on this because they are definitely particular about licensing. However, I can see why they would work with Volks if people have been seeing a Dollfie Dream in their cafe and have been asking to purchase it specifically.

But I stand by them using a paint that looks more like metal. The paint has no shine or glimmer to it and is very obviously spray painted for the colored parts. It just *looks* like plastic. A simple paint change would have fixed that.

 

They used a lacquer of some sort on the grip of Saber's Excalibur and it can adhere to the doll if she holds the sword for awhile. You could maybe do this with the jewelry parts on Kaede's dress, but the parts that touch her body would be a no. You wouldn't want to do the dress bit one way and the other parts another way.

 

As far as Nier: Swords, plural.

On Sailor Moon, she is perfect the way she is, but then I may be so much s fan I'm blind...

 

But back on topic, I still have yet to play the game. Played the demo several times. It's just the difficulty level is what puts me off from getting the whole game. I understand some people really like hard and complex games, but I don't. But I do love 2B's outfit. If someone doesn't want it I'll take it, but unless her head is blow me out of the park wow I'll be passing on the whole doll.