Cinnamoron Posted October 30, 2017 Is it just my weird brain, or is anyone else wondering about Jeanne's braid maybe having a wire braided in... Unless whoever is posing dolls on display is really good at catching bits of it on something in her armor for the dramatic curve to the side It definitely has a wire in it. You can see a glimpse of the wire in one of the photos. The real question is whether or not she will come with wire in her wig in the final version? Or if it will be a straight braid? I kind of like the wire...and then I kind of don't. I can see it getting messy real fast with something as delicate as a braid (even with careful handling; or maybe that's just me...). They could have just jabbed a wire in there for display purposes...or maybe she comes like that? I hope they tell us before next year! If anything, it makes me kind of wish they would give us the option of ordering spare wigs for both girls if we want them. I know they won't...but I wish they did. Didn't they offer that to customers for Miku's preorder, or am I remembering incorrectly? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anna-neko Posted October 30, 2017 If anything, it makes me kind of wish they would give us the option of ordering spare wigs for both girls if we want them. I know they won't...but I wish they did. Didn't they offer that to customers for Miku's preorder, or am I remembering incorrectly? hmmmmm.. I remember Volks posting mini tutorials on how to fluff out her twintails properly, and each Miku outfit comes with a new wig as they're always slightly different shade or style. Don't recall them ever actually offering spare chara wigs separately tho Anyway, depending on how Volks sews the braid to the wig itself, it might be easy to upkeep.... if one can unbraid it, brush and braid right back up again. Hope the braid's end isn't sealed with a gross bit of hotglue or something under that ribbon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted October 30, 2017 (edited) hmmmmm.. I remember Volks posting mini tutorials on how to fluff out her twintails properly, and each Miku outfit comes with a new wig as they're always slightly different shade or style. Don't recall them ever actually offering spare chara wigs separately tho Anyway, depending on how Volks sews the braid to the wig itself, it might be easy to upkeep.... if one can unbraid it, brush and braid right back up again. Hope the braid's end isn't sealed with a gross bit of hotglue or something under that ribbon I vaguely recall reading something about spare wigs somewhere, but no recollection of the details or if it was confirmed as an official thing. I do recall seeing twin-tail fluffing tutorials somewhere. As far as her braid goes, if Volks is true to form it will snap off if you so much as look at it funny. All kidding aside the quality of their wigs in the iM@S preorders seems better what I have seen from them in other releases so maybe they are improving. Edited October 30, 2017 by Guest The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cinnamoron Posted October 30, 2017 As far as her braid if Volks is true to form it will snap off if you so much as look at it funny. Bahahaha!!! So true! Though I hope not! *sob* Anyway, depending on how Volks sews the braid to the wig itself, it might be easy to upkeep.... if one can unbraid it, brush and braid right back up again. Hope the braid's end isn't sealed with a gross bit of hotglue or something under that ribbon Sooo...this means we can expect gross hotglue, right? lol Just kidding, though seriously, for as much fantastic stuff as Volks makes, sometimes they make choices that just make me go...what??? Annd now you guys have me thinking about this wig and wondering how heavy it will be with that braid! o_o Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tira Posted October 30, 2017 So if I understand the earlier convo I will have three Sabers, but four Saberfaces when Saber & Jeanne ship? You will have two Artorias, three Sabers, and four Saberfaces. It's somewhat confusing because "Saber" and "Ruler" are more like roles or classes than actual characters. So just because a character is referred to as a Saber doesn't mean they're the same character as the original Saber, Artoria - even if, like with Saber Extra (aka Nero), they look just like her. On the other hand, there are also lots of Artoria variants, such as Saber Alter who's an evil version, and Saber Lily who's a younger version. So it gets somewhat confusing if you're not familiar with the franchise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted October 30, 2017 So if I understand the earlier convo I will have three Sabers, but four Saberfaces when Saber & Jeanne ship? You will have two Artorias, three Sabers, and four Saberfaces. It's somewhat confusing because "Saber" and "Ruler" are more like roles or classes than actual characters. So just because a character is referred to as a Saber doesn't mean they're the same character as the original Saber, Artoria - even if, like with Saber Extra (aka Nero), they look just like her. On the other hand, there are also lots of Artoria variants, such as Saber Alter who's an evil version, and Saber Lily who's a younger version. So it gets somewhat confusing if you're not familiar with the franchise. And now that I realize just how lost I am I think I will go play with Rin for awhile, so the world can seem simple again. Seriously though thanks for taking the time to explain. It also helps me to see my Nero and Lily as different characters since up until this moment I though they were different versions of the same one. The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldylox Posted October 30, 2017 I must have this shirt in DD size so my Saber girls can wear it. Billy I gave up counting the girls I own, they keep multiplying and won't stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leiothrix Posted October 30, 2017 So it gets somewhat confusing if you're not familiar with the franchise. It's confusing no matter your familiarity. I love Fate, but they pretty much make everything up as they go along. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kudoku Posted October 31, 2017 Wait so Volks doesn't offer replacement wigs/parts? I know it's normally a lottery system and all, but what if someone got delivered a defective one? And are you just SOL if something breaks? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted October 31, 2017 Wait so Volks doesn't offer replacement wigs/parts? I know it's normally a lottery system and all, but what if someone got delivered a defective one? And are you just SOL if something breaks? You have a brief period of time after delivery to report a missing or defective item. There is no long term warranty or anything like that as far as I know. Even for something as defective as the original DDIII body frame was supposed to be. If you loose or break a limited part be prepared to go after-market for a replacement. These are hand made items made in limited quantity, so this isn't really all that shocking. Base body parts for all the DD except DDP can be bought from Volks, and I am sure DDP & DD/DDS F3 will be available soon enough. I have no idea how easy it is for English speakers to request a replacement from Volks Japan within the initial period. Never had that kind of issue myself. There are some cases where other companies made matches for Volks limited wigs. There is a company that makes after market Saber wigs for example. Lullaby Poem makes a wig that is an exact match for Ranko Kanzaki's wig, and I think they have a Saber style wig too. The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SakuraSylph Posted October 31, 2017 I know they won't...but I wish they did. Didn't they offer {extra wigs} to customers for Miku's preorder, or am I remembering incorrectly? They did, but only for Japanese customers. For each Miku, you could purchase up to two (2) extra wigs at a cost of somewhere around $75 each (I forget the exact price). There was a form included with the doll, which you had to submit in-person to a Volks store to order. The preorder period was a couple months, and then the wigs would be delivered 4 or so months after the close of the period. So, you'd have your Miku for about half a year before getting any extra wigs for her. The end result was a Miku wig in one of the Volks clear plastic wig boxes, with two pictures of Miku in the corner. It's different from the plastic bag and cardboard packaging for default wigs included inside doll boxes. So if you see one of those Miku wigs in a plastic box, it is legit, and that's what it's from. Volks sometimes offers extra wigs for dolls, usually SDs though. If they were to do it for Saber/Jeanne, it'd either be Japan-only or VolksUSA would have to make special arrangements to offer to the US. (which they did not do for Miku, just for a data point.) SakuraSylph Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Subaru Posted October 31, 2017 Volks USA took pre-orders for the original Miku and Snow Miku wigs after pre-orders were initially received. The delivery dates for them were an extra 6 months - a year (or so) to receive them. Dolls that were re-released through events like Miku Expo, Magical Mirai and etc. weren't eligible for extra wigs since it was after the initial round of pre-orders. Due to the nature of Saber's and Jeanne's wigs I'd say it's reasonable that there might be an extra wig pre-order. My wallet needs a vacation 💸Blog Insta Ko-Fi Etsy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Anna-neko Posted October 31, 2017 Due to the nature of Saber's and Jeanne's wigs I'd say it's reasonable that there might be an extra wig pre-order. i dunno..... somehow have a feeling Volks USA will just make another cute illustration warning card "how to put on wig, plz don't pull on braid/bun" and call it a day ....not gonna lie, Nero looking slightly annoyed at mishandling of her wig is kinda my fav thing from that entire release's paperwork Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted October 31, 2017 Volks USA took pre-orders for the original Miku and Snow Miku wigs after pre-orders were initially received. The delivery dates for them were an extra 6 months - a year (or so) to receive them. Dolls that were re-released through events like Miku Expo, Magical Mirai and etc. weren't eligible for extra wigs since it was after the initial round of pre-orders. Due to the nature of Saber's and Jeanne's wigs I'd say it's reasonable that there might be an extra wig pre-order. If it were a ponytail like Lily I'd be more worried about having an extra. The main concern I have with this wig is that it fits her head correctly. Extra came with a wig that about 1 or 2 mm too small, and to make matters worse it was a stiff wig cap, or perhaps maybe it was just the braiding that gave it no play. Either way getting it on her was a pain. Had to take her head off and wiggle it into the wig to do it. One thing that Volks does that bugs me is that they don't size their wig caps to fit the heads they release. Kos-Mos came with a wig that was way too big and slips right off her tiny head. Extra's was too small to fit her giant head, and Miku's Senbonzakura wig was too jut a bit too small too. It's kind of annoying that all the other stuff they ship with the dolls is perfect, but then they skimp on the wigs. I'd be willing to pay another $30 - $50 for the releases to get them with a nice wig like Mio or Asuna's. The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinclair Posted October 31, 2017 Don't get me going on wigs. The Miku Ribbon Girl wig, one of the best looking style of wigs there is, but extremely poorly thought out/made. Of all the Miku wigs, it has an elastic cap. Hooray you say, easy to put on? If you really do stretch it, even a little, you ruin the wig! Do you have any idea how hard it is to not stretch a stretchy wig cap?!? Sorry, not being a girl, I don;t know the proper terminology, so I'll do my best to describe it. When you put your hair into a pony tail, the hair that is more on the front of your head that gets pulled to the back, think of this hair. It kinda looks like it's going sideways on the side of your head. On the Volks wig it really isn't in the pony tail. It's short and it's just barely long enough to go to the spot where the pony tail attached to the wig. So as you stretch the wig cap, it pulls it out of the pony tail spot, and now you have all this loose hair on the side of her head with nowhere to go, and no way to put it back! Can you tell I'm kinda pissed about it. It's my favorite wig for her too. So if anyone can point me to an aftermarket version of this wig, please do. But back to Saber's wig, I'd love to get my hands on a spare Saber Alter wig. She hasn't worn it for months now as I'm afraid of pulling the bun off when I put it on her, in part thanks to the Miku Ribbon Girl wig. Also, still looking for someone that doesn't want Saber's outfit so I can buy it off of them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted October 31, 2017 But back to Saber's wig, I'd love to get my hands on a spare Saber Alter wig. She hasn't worn it for months now as I'm afraid of pulling the bun off when I put it on her, in part thanks to the Miku Ribbon Girl wig. Also, still looking for someone that doesn't want Saber's outfit so I can buy it off of them. I'll try and find my bookmark for the site that sold them. I never bought one personally, so I can't confirm the quality. The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
super_nova Posted October 31, 2017 pre ordered both. i was waiting for them to release Jeanne and finally she is out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gunter Posted October 31, 2017 (edited) I don't know how you could do that. What if you forget, are away, get sick, have a blackout/internet outage, miscalculate timezones or something? Order it now, then you don't need to think about it again. Well I have a phone with a notification on it? Also the last day is xmas eve which makes it easy enough on its own to remember. I highly doubt some extreme event could occur that would make me unable to do it or reach someone who could. Also, if SOMEHOW that extreme case were to happen to me up in Northern Ohio, USA ( A place of basically no natural disasters) then simply put I'd probably pick up one of the ones that surely would be given up next year. Basically I just prefer it this way. Is how I've always done it with Volks and most pre-orders honestly. Two things you can be sure of during pre-orders: The wait is gonna be long and there will be people who give up their items. Edited October 31, 2017 by Guest Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cauldroness Posted October 31, 2017 Re: Ordering time When it comes to Volks, I'm also a fan of ordering late... If my memory serves, in the last Saber pre-order, it was the earlier batches that had problems and then the later batches were fixed. So there can be a benefit to ordering late! Doll Photos & Doll Jewelry Sales: Follow me on Instagram! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cinnamoron Posted November 1, 2017 I'll try and find my bookmark for the site that sold them. I never bought one personally, so I can't confirm the quality. CLS Shop on Taobao is only one I know of that makes Saber style bun wigs. There's a regular Saber wig and an Alter Version. Alter Version is sans ahoge. :3 Looks like they've already made the jump onto making Jeanne wigs too, here. I haven't ever ordered from them, but it's tempting to start shopping for back up/alternate wigs now. I find the fibers on Volks wigs to be hit or miss anyway, so I like having an alternative. I read somewhere in the past that the Saber wigs had too long of bangs; anyone know if that's true or not? I'm not really great at trimming wigs and having it look natural, if you know what I mean. It's the only thing that's kept me from ordering in the past. >_< Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sechs Posted November 1, 2017 Volks posted some photos on their blog yesterday and before yesterday but like nobody linked them here I guess some have not seen them. https://ameblo.jp/blog-dd/entry-12324162257.html https://ameblo.jp/blog-dd/entry-12324442094.html Unfortunately, because of suspense, they are as bad as the pics from fassebouk. I must say to hold high a standard is way cooler than carrying a sword imo. They twisted the bottom tip of it, though (or it was not well assembled). Rouge Evening Dress Set, never opened Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Leiothrix Posted November 1, 2017 They twisted the bottom tip of it, though (or it was not well assembled). I think they ran out of room in the display case and just bent it to fit. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sinclair Posted November 1, 2017 I'll try and find my bookmark for the site that sold them. I never bought one personally, so I can't confirm the quality. CLS Shop on Taobao is only one I know of that makes Saber style bun wigs. There's a regular Saber wig and an Alter Version. Alter Version is sans ahoge. :3 Issue is now I have to figure out how to order from there. Thanks for the links. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted November 1, 2017 I'll try and find my bookmark for the site that sold them. I never bought one personally, so I can't confirm the quality. CLS Shop on Taobao is only one I know of that makes Saber style bun wigs. There's a regular Saber wig and an Alter Version. Alter Version is sans ahoge. :3 Issue is now I have to figure out how to order from there. Thanks for the links. This is the shop I was thinking of, but it looks like they no longer have the blond Extra wigs. Just Lily's. They used to have 6 Saber wig options, and you could also choose your ribbon color. http://www.sakurahonya.com/categories/PARTS/WIG/ Don't get me going on wigs. The Miku Ribbon Girl wig, one of the best looking style of wigs there is, but extremely poorly thought out/made. Of all the Miku wigs, it has an elastic cap. Hooray you say, easy to put on? If you really do stretch it, even a little, you ruin the wig! Do you have any idea how hard it is to not stretch a stretchy wig cap?!? Sorry, not being a girl, I don;t know the proper terminology, so I'll do my best to describe it. When you put your hair into a pony tail, the hair that is more on the front of your head that gets pulled to the back, think of this hair. It kinda looks like it's going sideways on the side of your head. On the Volks wig it really isn't in the pony tail. It's short and it's just barely long enough to go to the spot where the pony tail attached to the wig. So as you stretch the wig cap, it pulls it out of the pony tail spot, and now you have all this loose hair on the side of her head with nowhere to go, and no way to put it back! Had that issue with Sakura's Shinguji's wig. Caught a few of the base hairs with a comb and once they are pulled out of place you can't tuck them back. Might be able to use a needle to pull them back through the wig cap like a thread, but it was just a few so I just trimmed them. What you're saying makes sense out of why they use stiff caps on those wigs. Makes it harder to pull the hairs out by stretching the wig. The caps just need to fit a bit better. The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cinnamoron Posted November 1, 2017 Issue is now I have to figure out how to order from there. Thanks for the links. You'll have to use a proxy service. There are tons of them for Taobao and they all vary a little bit. I think the last service I used was TaobaoSpree? Haven't bought things from Taobao in a long time just cause it's a lengthy process. If you do end up ordering, I'd love to hear about these wigs, since I've been curious about them! This is the shop I was thinking of, but it looks like they no longer have the blond Extra wigs. Just Lily's. They used to have 6 Saber wig options, and you could also choose your ribbon color. http://www.sakurahonya.com/categories/PARTS/WIG/ Thanks for the link! I completely forgot about that shop! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites