Volks News 81

Jumping in to give a little input. I have owned (still do... just need a different skin tone body) SD16 as they're my favorite doll body -ever-. Sometimes their clothes can fit DD, but very rarely from what I've noticed. Even jackets are baggy. Everything just looks super baggy on a DD. On a DDdy it's a little better, but... maybe I'm just picky, but it just looks like it doesn't fit.

 

I also have a lot of SD16 clothes if anyone wants me to do some comparisons. I don't own a full DDdy body yet, but I do have a peach pai and a lower torso xD Lego dolls

 

I've never thought of putting Ami's clothing on my DD though; too much black. Usually what I am trying on my DD is Designer Collection stuff that I buy for Ami and Belldandy, and I generally don't like the fit.

 

I think with that outfit...I just used plastic wrap to avoid the staining. I wrap it specifically so it can be removed with ease and without touching. I wash my hands between each piece that is removed. It takes a lot of work. XD

 

Oh and yes. I sat her down on purpose. This way she is posed you don't notice just how big everything fits on her. Including the fact that there is like a huge gap with the boots. Sadly all my shots like this are manipulated to hide the size differences.

Everything just looks super baggy on a DD. On a DDdy it's a little better, but... maybe I'm just picky, but it just looks like it doesn't fit.

 

Makes me wonder if Ami's green windbreaker that came with her fullset would work on a DD. It's a baggy item to start, and I should try it on Takane or Saber Extra to see how it looks.

 

Oh and yes. I sat her down on purpose. This way she is posed you don't notice just how big everything fits on her. Including the fact that there is like a huge gap with the boots. Sadly all my shots like this are manipulated to hide the size differences.

 

I sort of figured. Great job on the photo. Photography is all about picking what the viewer sees anyways, so sounds to me like what you are doing what you are supposed to be doing in the first place.

Thanks everyone for the comments. So I'm getting the consensus this isn't going to be a great fit, which is what I feared.

 

One of my frustrations in this hobby is Volks playing rather loose with the definition of the word fit. In researching various outfits, most of the time I've been able to find some Japanese blog that will show an outfit on a DD, and what I've found is very few of the SD16 outfits actually fit on DD no matter what Volks claims. SDGr seems to generally be ok, and my understanding is that body has overall measurements that are fairly similar to DD, though a larger waist and just the typical overall less exaggerated proportions that are usual for SD over DD. I'm referring mostly to the Designers' Collection stuff though I think it also tends to apply to their other clothing lines as well.

 

The other thing I don't get is why so many of the DD-only outfits such as character-specific ones like Idolmaster or much of the Tenshi-no-Koromo line are also bulky on DD and also have the sleeves that are too long. Do they use SD as a base for these too even though they're not claimed to be compatible?

 

An example of something Volks claims fits that in my view really doesn't is the Bourgeon de Rose outfit:

http://www.volks.co.jp/dress/1509/

It's a SDGr (guy) outfit that they claim fits DD-L bust and DDdy. Volks Dreamy DD Blog shows it on Alisa:

https://ameblo.jp/blog-dd/entry-12075615221.html

It's not awful, but it's also not what I'd call fitting either, and I'd have been really disappointed had I bought it without digging up that page first.

 

I've also seen in pics from Volks store displays them use the same techniques of showing dolls sitting to minimize showing how loose certain outfits are. I couldn't find the page again but I have a pic saved of Sheryl in an SD16 outfit done that way; looks perfect in the picture but I've seen the same outfit in other pics on DD and it's actually very loose and doesn't look good.

Thanks everyone for the comments. So I'm getting the consensus this isn't going to be a great fit, which is what I feared.

 

One of my frustrations in this hobby is Volks playing rather loose with the definition of the word fit. In researching various outfits, most of the time I've been able to find some Japanese blog that will show an outfit on a DD, and what I've found is very few of the SD16 outfits actually fit on DD no matter what Volks claims. SDGr seems to generally be ok, and my understanding is that body has overall measurements that are fairly similar to DD, though a larger waist and just the typical overall less exaggerated proportions that are usual for SD over DD. I'm referring mostly to the Designers' Collection stuff though I think it also tends to apply to their other clothing lines as well.

 

Yeah, I've said this before, but I avoid SD16 outfits unless I want it for my SD16. If part or all of it happen to fit DD then great, but I won't get it unless Ami Ayase would wear it.

 

The sad thing is those Bourgeon de Rose outfits are great looking. I'd love to dress Makoto in the Bourgeon de rose Jeune homme, and Yukiho in the Bourgeon de rose Mademoiselle then pose them together. They'd look awesome, if the outfits fit.

The sad thing is those Bourgeon de Rose outfits are great looking. I'd love to dress Makoto in the Bourgeon de rose Jeune homme, and Yukiho in the Bourgeon de rose Mademoiselle then pose them together. They'd look awesome, if the outfits fit.

I believe the Mademoiselle one does fit but the Jenue homme one clearly doesn't and would be worse on DDS since it's a little smaller. If you look back at the page with Alisa, Mademoiselle is shown on Kirika and it looks really good:

https://ameblo.jp/blog-dd/entry-12075615221.html

 

There's a tiny pic of it on Miku here:

http://www.dollfiedream.tokyo/jp/blog_nest_old/?&mylist=381

 

Edit: I am dumb:

I just noticed something; I don't know which size Volks actually considers the Mademoiselle ouutit; it has the SD16 logo on the package from the listing on Mandarake, but the Volks page shows the SDGr logo by both outfits...unless there it's just referring to what dolls they are showing them on. It's compatible with both anyway but I've also been using those logos as presumably which size Volks actually designs the outfits for. Not all the Designers' Collection outfits have those though and I've noticed newer ones don't it seems.

 

That brings up another point. SD outfits that have gathering or elastic are going to be more adaptable to DD and look better, and things like the corsets will usually have the extra sets of loops for the hooks to make them fit. Certain styles of clothing too like that dress being off-shoulder means it doesn't have an issue with wide shoulders. Hence the Tree Fairy(?) outfit, even though it's SD16 fits nicely on DD with an adjustable corset and a shirt and skirt that's gathered up:

http://bloodyangel.blog24.fc2.com/blog-entry-971.html

Edited November 16, 2018 by Guest

I just noticed something; I don't know which size Volks actually considers the Mademoiselle ouutit; it has the SD16 logo on the package from the listing on Mandarake, but the Volks page shows the SDGr logo by both outfits...unless there it's just referring to what dolls they are showing them on. It's compatible with both anyway but I've also been using those logos as presumably which size Volks actually designs the outfits for. Not all the Designers' Collection outfits have those though and I've noticed newer ones don't it seems.

 

The Madame outfit lists SD16, and they have a nice closeup photo of the label. The Mademoiselle outfit has a line through SD16 on the package, or at least I am pretty sure it does. It's hard to see clearly on the photo, because the label is pretty small in that image.

 

That brings up another point. SD outfits that have gathering or elastic are going to be more adaptable to DD and look better, and things like the corsets will usually have the extra sets of loops for the hooks to make them fit.

 

I am pretty sure the black corset dress I have would fit a DD, but I am not sure about the SD16 one in Champagne. I haven't tried it, but I think the corset would look too big. In both cases the waist and corset are elastic.

 

I wonder what SD16 S Bust version will do for outfits in the long run. We still only have like 4 made for DDP clothing items, and one of them is socks. XD

I just noticed something; I don't know which size Volks actually considers the Mademoiselle ouutit; it has the SD16 logo on the package from the listing on Mandarake, but the Volks page shows the SDGr logo by both outfits...unless there it's just referring to what dolls they are showing them on. It's compatible with both anyway but I've also been using those logos as presumably which size Volks actually designs the outfits for. Not all the Designers' Collection outfits have those though and I've noticed newer ones don't it seems.

The Madame outfit lists SD16, and they have a nice closeup photo of the label. The Mademoiselle outfit has a line through SD16 on the package, or at least I am pretty sure it does. It's hard to see clearly on the photo, because the label is pretty small in that image.

Ooops, I am dumb. I was looking at the Madame one on Mandarake instead of the Mademoiselle, so what I said above is wrong, and the logos match what the Volks site says. I'll amend my message above so as to not spread misinformation.

 

That brings up another point. SD outfits that have gathering or elastic are going to be more adaptable to DD and look better, and things like the corsets will usually have the extra sets of loops for the hooks to make them fit.

I am pretty sure the black corset dress I have would fit a DD, but I am not sure about the SD16 one in Champagne. I haven't tried it, but I think the corset would look too big. In both cases the waist and corset are elastic.

Corsets on SD16 outfits, if they're not the under-bust type, likely aren't going to really work on DD except for L bust, though Volks may say otherwise. The adjustments with hooks in the back mostly just cinch the waist part in and don't much change the bust part. Archangeli talks about this in a review of that tree fairy set I mentioned here:

https://archangeli.net/2015/06/09/review-volks-tree-fairy-set/

You can see in her pictures the bust part of the outfit is a little loose, but given the nature of the blouse material it still looks ok. She also reviewed the SDGr flower fairy and the corset does look a little smaller:

https://archangeli.net/2015/06/10/review-volks-flower-fairy-set/

 

I wonder what SD16 S Bust version will do for outfits in the long run. We still only have like 4 made for DDP clothing items, and one of them is socks. XD

Maybe that will improve now with DDP bodies and Dream Choice. It's going to continue to be confusing as presumably eventually they'll add other bust sizes and if some of the current clothing ends up not fitting larger busts there won't be any official information. That's already a pain now with current MDD outfits, some of which fit DDP and many do not. I'm sure it's mainly due to pants or no pants, but it still makes guessing if some older MDD outfit may work on DDP a gamble.

 

For example, there's a wind fairy SDMidi/MDD outfit in that series:

https://order.mandarake.co.jp/order/detailPage/item?itemCode=1096865418&ref=list

I bought this when it showed up because it's cute and I gambled it'd fit DDP and Yayoi's on my want list and there aren't many outfits and especially few I like. But I don't know 100% it's going to work.

Personally, I've never got the Mademoiselle set to fit quite right on either DD or DDS. It's been a while since I tried, because it's an INSTANT stainer, but I think I had better luck with a DDS M than a DD M.

Corsets on SD16 outfits, if they're not the under-bust type, likely aren't going to really work on DD except for L bust, though Volks may say otherwise. The adjustments with hooks in the back mostly just cinch the waist part in and don't much change the bust part.

 

The corset dresses don't have extra loops iirc. They're elastic, and if the SD16 one fits it will be Takane and not Miki.

 

One other thing about the default sets for the La Rose de Versailles, since they are for SD they probably won't be designed with Vinyl staining in mind. No need for Volks to up the cost by lining the jacket or shirt with white material, and if that velvety material sheds the lint might stain her too.

The corset dresses don't have extra loops iirc. They're elastic, and if the SD16 one fits it will be Takane and not Miki.

I'm not familiar with these dresses or even what they are. I was mainly thinking of the separate corsets that are typically the (p)leather material with respect to being adjustable.

 

One other thing about the default sets for the La Rose de Versailles, since they are for SD they probably won't be designed with Vinyl staining in mind. No need for Volks to up the cost by lining the jacket or shirt with white material, and if that velvety material sheds the lint might stain her too.

Good point that I hadn't yet thought of.

 

Yeah, not worth the risk.

I'm not familiar with these dresses or even what they are. I was mainly thinking of the separate corsets that are typically the (p)leather material with respect to being adjustable.

 

It's these dresses. We discussed them a bit in another thread. My Belldandy is wearing the black one in a photo I posted awhile back. The black one is lined with white, and has a white petticoat built into the skirt. Only bits you have to worry about are some ribbon lacing on the corset.

 

I should try the black one on my Mio Akiyama. I bet she'd rock it.

 

 

What I am missing in Volks News 81, but maybe we aren't see all the pages yet, is Christmas themed outfits. I was really hoping for the iM@S Santa sets to get voted in, but at the same time the Sailor Moon releases would make them almost impossible to manage this year.

Edited November 16, 2018 by Guest

I'm not familiar with these dresses or even what they are. I was mainly thinking of the separate corsets that are typically the (p)leather material with respect to being adjustable.

 

It's these dresses. We discussed them a bit in another thread. My Belldandy is wearing the black one in a photo I posted awhile back. The black one is lined with white, and has a white petticoat built into the skirt. Only bits you have to worry about are some ribbon lacing on the corset.

 

I should try the black one on my Mio Akiyama. I bet she'd rock it.

 

 

What I am missing in Volks News 81, but maybe we aren't see all the pages yet, is Christmas themed outfits. I was really hoping for the iM@S Santa sets to get voted in, but at the same time the Sailor Moon releases would make them almost impossible to manage this year.

Picture isn't working for me (I think Volks has hotlinking protection unless you've visited their site in the same browser session), but your description jogged my memory; you're talking about Bitter Cassis (what does this name mean lol):

http://www.volks.co.jp/htd_kyoto13/sumika_lpp/

 

Thanks for pointing out it's white lined as I kinda like it but had previously discarded the idea as a probably stainer.

 

Edit: There's a picture of it on Youmu here:

https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/bnfpse/38590367.html

Here she dropped her skirt to show how the corset actually fits:

https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/bnfpse/38467201.html

Looks like it fits better than many DD-only outfits.

I found some pictures here

https://www.facebook.com/mazaku.razial/media_set?set=a.2070830252976874&type=3

 

Not sure if this already got posted. Same facebook user, but a few more pages added in this set, and less reflection on the photos.

 

https://www.facebook.com/mazaku.razial/media_set?set=a.2073780996015133&type=3

 

you're talking about Bitter Cassis (what does this name mean lol):

http://www.volks.co.jp/htd_kyoto13/sumika_lpp/

 

Bitter Cassis is "tart black currant" I think. They seem to have gone with a food theme for these dresses.

 

Edit: There's a picture of it on Youmu here:

https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/bnfpse/38590367.html

Here she dropped her skirt to show how the corset actually fits:

https://blogs.yahoo.co.jp/bnfpse/38467201.html

Looks like it fits better than many DD-only outfits.

 

 

Yeah those are solid fits.

 

As a side note I see the outfit you had mentioned the other day. I believe this image actually uses her arms pressed to her side to make the vest look like a slimmer fit on a DD.

 

Yeah I noticed that as well as that DDS-only one, which basically fits like a tent anyway.

 

I see last year there was another set of corset dresses, mostly the same designs but in different colors:

http://www.volks.co.jp/dress/1707/

Yeah I noticed that as well as that DDS-only one, which basically fits like a tent anyway.

 

Yeah for me this is an increasingly sore point. I don't believe they would lack a market for DD sized street and dress clothing. I get that SD's may be their core business, but they could totally add DD specific versions to their Blue/Black/Pink label line, and do regular releases in sizes made for each vinyl line. Maybe not every line in every release, but I bet they'd sell like hotcakes.

 

That's one area where Danny has one up on Volks. His clothing is made for his vinyls, and I'd bet his cortex line has nearly the exact same dimensions.

 

Now that I can see the white gown clearly on the scans, Lady Oscar does a great job looking masculine in the uniform and feminine in the gown. I wonder if they will offer that other wig as an extra with a mail in lottery form? Might look good on Saber Nero with her great big head. XD

 

I love the shape of the SD16 small bust body in the gown too, it's really perfect.

 

I seriously think I may enter for Oscar in the Volks USA lottery, which I assume will be in January. Probably a long shot, but she's pretty awesome.

What I am missing in Volks News 81, but maybe we aren't see all the pages yet, is Christmas themed outfits. I was really hoping for the iM@S Santa sets to get voted in, but at the same time the Sailor Moon releases would make them almost impossible to manage this year.

I think they're just going to sell last year's again. Volks International still has all three and Volks USA currently has two of them in stock. It is internesting if they're not in the magazine though unlike them showing the previous year's Halloween outfits again. Volks USA sent a vague email earlier this month saying there was a special holiday event that would be 11/19-11/30 with a picture of a girl in one of the current holiday outfits.

 

If the iM@S Holy Night Gifter outfits gets a rerelease it'll likely be later; last time they did the rereleases at least roughly in the order the voting rounds were done, and they've at least started off the same way since the ones we got so far are Designers' Collection and that was in the second round of voting. I voted for Holy Night Gifter too; it was one I'm interested in and it was also one of the fairly few in that category that isn't pretty readily available at a decent price already.

 

Yeah I noticed that as well as that DDS-only one, which basically fits like a tent anyway.

Yeah for me this is an increasingly sore point. I don't believe they would lack a market for DD sized street and dress clothing. I get that SD's may be their core business, but they could totally add DD specific versions to their Blue/Black/Pink label line, and do regular releases in sizes made for each vinyl line. Maybe not every line in every release, but I bet they'd sell like hotcakes.

I'd certainly be interested in such clothing.

 

Tenshi no Koromo is the mostly-DD line; the clothes are generally modeled on DD, and a fair amount of them aren't rated to fit SD at all. And largely, that line consists of anime trope outfits, nurse outfits, maid outfits, etc. That's fine and I really like a lot of that stuff (and I really wish we'd have gotten to vote on it so there'd be some rereleases), but I also feel like Volks has moved beyond just that with DD overall, and that clothing line seems like it's still stuck where their original vision for DD was i.e. dolls for (primarily male) otaku nerds. In the other lines so much is what I would call traditional doll clothing i.e. frilly stuff, lolita outfits, and sort of historical style outfits like those corset dresses. There's a pretty real lack of stylish normal clothing that real people might actually wear in everyday life.

 

That's one area where Danny has one up on Volks. His clothing is made for his vinyls, and I'd bet his cortex line has nearly the exact same dimensions.

One of the things that hit me when I first saw his dolls was how realistic the clothing looked, in terms of how it fits. I think his clothing line is a bit boring overall because it pretty much consists of just very normal clothes, but he does it well.

 

I'm pretty sure Cortex will be the same size, at least within tolerances. He's emphazised that the busts are interchangeable. I also believe he posted somewhere about how the Cortex molds had to be remade, once, because the first set didn't quite properly account for whatever amount of shrinkage the plastic goes through as it cools so the parts weren't quite the exact size of the vinyl counterparts.

 

Now that I can see the white gown clearly on the scans, Lady Oscar does a great job looking masculine in the uniform and feminine in the gown. I wonder if they will offer that other wig as an extra with a mail in lottery form? Might look good on Saber Nero with her great big head. XD

 

I love the shape of the SD16 small bust body in the gown too, it's really perfect.

 

I seriously think I may enter for Oscar in the Volks USA lottery, which I assume will be in January. Probably a long shot, but she's pretty awesome.

Hey I think she's pretty nice and I'm not even really a fan of the SD aesthetic.

A bit late to be helpful, but here it is nonetheless

 

Miss Camellia by Amara77, on Flickr

 

Miss Camellia by Amara77, on Flickr

 

This dress fits best on DDS M bust I tried to squeeze it on an L bust, but it doesn't look right. It makes the bodice look like a belly shirt lol.

 

And this one

(Sorry I couldn't figure out how to post the pic from my instagram.)

I've managed to stuff a DY into it. It's not a perfect fit, but it works well enough. The bodice laces up so it allows some give.

 

You defintely need to be careful of staining though.

The free shipping event on Volks News 81 has started.

I just placed my order. Why I torture myself this way IDK.

So they're already starting outfit rereleases...kinda seems odd to be rereleasing the Azurite Blue set so early though. Isn't that one still kinda recent? Or have I just lost concept of time.

 

The Azurite Blue sets are close to 2 and a half years old. I don't know how that scales in Dollfie time.

 

They're nice sets. I'm tempted to pick up seconds of Elegant and Pretty.

 

Maybe they'll redo the Quintetto of Forest and/or Gear sets.

So they're already starting outfit rereleases...kinda seems odd to be rereleasing the Azurite Blue set so early though. Isn't that one still kinda recent? Or have I just lost concept of time.

The Azurite Blue sets are close to 2 and a half years old. I don't know how that scales in Dollfie time.

 

They're nice sets. I'm tempted to pick up seconds of Elegant and Pretty.

 

Maybe they'll redo the Quintetto of Forest and/or Gear sets.

The last time they did this, Lady Wizard and Lady Archer got rereleased (why didn't Lady Thief?). Those came out the first time August 2013 and the rerelease was March 2015 so it was a less than two years for those two.

 

I might be interested in Azurite Blue Pretty. Elegant I liked but is one I found in pics to look large on DD, like on Takane here:

https://userdisk.webry.biglobe.ne.jp/022/131/94/N000/000/000/146592243569984555180_DSC_0060s.jpg

I think it's the combination of the poofy shirt and it being SD16 so it is actually is a little large.

 

Gear Accent is funny. Red is fairly hard to find, but between Volks Japan and USA most of the rest of them are still available.

 

I think my voting on Designers Collection didn't help me or probably anyone else. I kept changing what I voted for because during that period I kept finding outfits I wanted at Mandarake so then I'd stop voting for that and switch to something else. I ended up mainly voting for the Deep Blue military sets because there are two of those I want that Mandarake stopped getting as soon as I decided I wanted them, of course.

Looks like outfit information is up now.

 

https://www.volks.co.jp/dolpa40/sumika/#newoutfit

I probably want the black hat and perhaps Azurite Blue Pretty. I don't see anything else for me this time.

As previously mentioned, I would definitely be tempted to pick up another Azurite Pretty and Elegant.

 

I definitely like that SD16 Dress (Eclair Bustle Dress) in the Pink Label collection. I also like that beige coat. The blue dress and coat are nice, but it's the bustle dress that I can already see Sabrina and Cynthia in. They'll have to engage in Mortal Kombat over it.

 

The Leather Riders Jacket set in the Black Label section only appeals to me because of that jacket. Cynthia needs it.

 

In the White Rose Collection, the Classical Maid Set looks nice. I'm very fond of the Women's Maid Set without the apron. I think I'll definitely get the latter. Not sure about the former.

 

It's extremely unusual for there to not be anything in Shoes Boutique that strikes my fancy. The only thing this time are the SB-SD-224 boots. Those go obviously with the White Rose and even potentially the Pink Label options I'm interested in. However, I already have a couple of suitable choices there in Amber's shoe hoard without having to buy these.