Dollfie Dream F3

I'm not so hard up for double joints that I'm ready to give up my DDdy's curves. I'd hope if Volks eventually added double-jointed knees, they would work out a solution that's more aesthetically appealing, too.

 

Also, I take back my previous statement. I was at a meet on Saturday and one of the guys there had a really adorable DDP 10. She was really satisfying to handle and manipulate. And yeah, it was pretty easy to get her to stand on her own. I did notice that the ankle wanted to pivot really easily when she wasn't standing, but she was also wearing socks/shoes which seemed to help it not be too much of an issue. I'm wondering if some sueding would help with that?

It has been helpful to read what everyone things about the F3.

I only have an F3... and I've never owned another DD (I have a DDP with an 09 head).

So, I don't have a frame of reference myself.

My MDD-f³ Kokopo came very floppy. I had to tighten every single joint, however I was unable to get to her thigh joints so her legs still sway but she can stand on her own as long as nobody bumps the table.

I made a post showing the differences between the old DD3/DDS body and the new DDS-f3 body,

 

viewtopic.php?f=21&t=17975&p=242964#p242964

I like the ddp body.

I've been out of the loop for a while because of school demands. Has there been a change of skin tone matching with the new body? I was debating about getting Miku the new F3 body because it looks really poseable and I love posing her, but if the semi-white skin tone doesn't match it would be a deal breaker for me.

The SWS skin tone became slightly pinker awhile back. I can see a slight shade difference between my Ranko and Anastasia. Miku might depend on the release. She’s been released so many times, and I have no idea how mine compares to the one you have. 

@BeyondTime I'm not sure which release she was, but I do know that I got her in 2017. How big is the shade difference between your Ranko and Anastasia?

1 hour ago, MegWesley said:

@BeyondTime I'm not sure which release she was, but I do know that I got her in 2017. How big is the shade difference between your Ranko and Anastasia?

It’s noticeable, but not drastic. Someone posted an image of an older head on a new body awhile back and you could tell. 

Ill compare my Miku when I get home. I can stick her head on Anya’s body, and I think mine is from 2016 or 2017. 

I weirdly actually have a Snow Miku on an Anastasia body lol. I don't know what release of Snow Miku mine is though. But I don't notice a difference between the color. Or with the new SWS hands I've bought in the past few months.

I compared my Snow Miku & Hatsune Miku to Anastasia and I saw no body tone difference between the three of them. When I compared Anastasia to Kos-Mos my Kos-Mos is a paler white and Anya is a warmer tone. Kos-Mos was released in 2013.

I wish I recalled the thread where we discussed this before, because someone did have a photo of an older SWS part on a newer body, and the color difference was quite noticeable.

You're probably thinking about @Gabriel's KOS-MOS, which was discussed in his thread in this section:

Another issue to keep in mind is Volks body parts don't always all exactly match. I have a bust that's NS but is a fair bit pinker in color; with it on a body at first I thought I had gotten a mislabeled SW part, but it doesn't match that either. If you buy a complete body I think the parts usually all match, but if you build one from parts it seems to be likely some piece won't quite match.

Edited May 14, 2019 by cfx

19 minutes ago, cfx said:

You're probably thinking about @Gabriel's KOS-MOS, which was discussed in his thread in this section:

Another issue to keep in mind is Volks body parts don't always all exactly match. I have a bust that's NS but is a fair bit pinker in color; with it on a body at first I thought I had gotten a mislabeled SW part, but it doesn't match that either. If you buy a complete body I think the parts usually all match, but if you build one from parts it seems to be likely some piece won't quite match.

That's right, and I totally forgot I referenced my own iM@S head comparison as examples. XD

Compare Yukiho and Anastasia here to see the color difference. Yukiho was 2013 like Kos-Mos. Hatsune Miku was 2014, 2015 & 2017. Unless the 2015 & 2017 releases used leftover stock from 2014 (which is quite possible) I doubt they would be the old skin color. Snow Miku was 2016 & 2017. All the dates are myfigurecollection so my data is only as good as theirs.

http://www.dollfiedreams.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=17527&start=0

Somehow, despite her presence in my home for months now, I've never compared Marion's skin tone to the recent arrival of Snow Miku.  Or if I did, then I've forgotten.

 

 

27 minutes ago, Gabriel said:

Somehow, despite her presence in my home for months now, I've never compared Marion's skin tone to the recent arrival of Snow Miku.  Or if I did, then I've forgotten.

 

 

I'd be curious, I'd like to know if my perception of a difference matches that of others.

Can anyone tell me if you can put the new f3 feet on a DDIII body? Are the pegs compatible at all? And if not straight away, would some sanding fix it? Those are the only improvement I'd really want or need from the f3 body and I'd really like to upgrade the feet for a few of my girls.
(Well, the torso frame would be nice too if I were to have a silicone bust that could make use of it, but with vinyl bust there's practically no difference.)

I'm also curious if they fixed the elbows for the DD and DDS f3 frame? Do they pose as well as the DDIII ones? I had the DDP body and it had the most useless elbows ever. They barely moved past a 90 degree angle and if you tried to pull them out more to get more movement out of them, they'd just fall out. Without sleeves they bent a little more, but with sleeves I couldn't get them to behave at all. Then again I don't know if that's a usual problem with MDDIII bodies too, because I've never handled any of the mini sized DD bodies...?
 

49 minutes ago, Yenna said:

Can anyone tell me if you can put the new f3 feet on a DDIII body? Are the pegs compatible at all? And if not straight away, would some sanding fix it? Those are the only improvement I'd really want or need from the f3 body and I'd really like to upgrade the feet for a few of my girls.
(Well, the torso frame would be nice too if I were to have a silicone bust that could make use of it, but with vinyl bust there's practically no difference.)

I'm also curious if they fixed the elbows for the DD and DDS f3 frame? Do they pose as well as the DDIII ones? I had the DDP body and it had the most useless elbows ever. They barely moved past a 90 degree angle and if you tried to pull them out more to get more movement out of them, they'd just fall out. Without sleeves they bent a little more, but with sleeves I couldn't get them to behave at all. Then again I don't know if that's a usual problem with MDDIII bodies too, because I've never handled any of the mini sized DD bodies...?
 

I can try some the feet this evening. I know I tried it with my Altria, and I seem to recall it working, but I want to confirm that. Torso frame could fit in the standard two piece body. The legs and arms for the old body wouldn’t work with it though. 

34 minutes ago, BeyondTime said:

I can try some the feet this evening. I know I tried it with my Altria, and I seem to recall it working, but I want to confirm that. Torso frame could fit in the standard two piece body. The legs and arms for the old body wouldn’t work with it though. 

Thanks, I'd appreciate that.

With the torso comment I meant that I'd likely get a full f3 body and swap a silicone bust for it to make full use of the new shoulders and such -if I had a character that needed it. Otherwise I don't really see the new body being worth the price increase for me personally (especially when I quite hated the DDP version). The torso frame has some cool mobility improvements, but since the vinyl parts prevent it from moving... I don't see the point. 😛
Now, if I can just get the new feet for the DDIII, I'll be perfectly happy with my old bodies for a long, long time.

Edited May 14, 2019 by Yenna

1 hour ago, Yenna said:

Can anyone tell me if you can put the new f3 feet on a DDIII body? Are the pegs compatible at all? And if not straight away, would some sanding fix it? Those are the only improvement I'd really want or need from the f3 body and I'd really like to upgrade the feet for a few of my girls.
(Well, the torso frame would be nice too if I were to have a silicone bust that could make use of it, but with vinyl bust there's practically no difference.)

I'm also curious if they fixed the elbows for the DD and DDS f3 frame? Do they pose as well as the DDIII ones? I had the DDP body and it had the most useless elbows ever. They barely moved past a 90 degree angle and if you tried to pull them out more to get more movement out of them, they'd just fall out. Without sleeves they bent a little more, but with sleeves I couldn't get them to behave at all. Then again I don't know if that's a usual problem with MDDIII bodies too, because I've never handled any of the mini sized DD bodies...?
 

The f3 fit on old dd frames, the pegs are a bit long though (can't remember if i accidently bought f3 dd rather than dds ones, but if I did that would account for the length issue). The mdd3 body elbows do bend more than 90 degrees.

Edited May 14, 2019 by Mahoro

30 minutes ago, Yenna said:

Thanks, I'd appreciate that.

With the torso comment I meant that I'd likely get a full f3 body and swap a silicone bust for it to make full use of the new shoulders and such -if I had a character that needed it. Otherwise I don't really see the new body being worth the price increase for me personally (especially when I quite hated the DDP version). The torso frame has some cool mobility improvements, but since the vinyl parts prevent it from moving... I don't see the point. 😛
Now, if I can just get the new feet for the DDIII, I'll be perfectly happy with my old bodies for a long, long time.

Billy could probably test a Peach Pai on an F3. He has Saber Altria, and I suspect he’s got more Peach Pai busts than Yahoo Japan. 

What worries me about the feet is that they will be too loose as opposed to too tight. 

1 minute ago, BeyondTime said:

What worries me about the feet is that they will be too loose as opposed to too tight.

Is there enough adjustment on the screw on the socket to account for that?

With the new feet on the old shins, there may be a limit to the side tilt of the feet compared to full f3, since Volks changed the bottom cut of the shins to be flat and cover less of the ball compared to the DDIII shins (something I was complaining about elsewhere, why I'm aware of it).

I don’t know, which is why I want to try it. I messed around with it as a result of Saber’s boots not fitting but that was 7 months ago. I can try the side to side although that could maybe be fixed by trimming the vinyl. 

5 hours ago, BeyondTime said:

Billy could probably test a Peach Pai on an F3. He has Saber Altria, and I suspect he’s got more Peach Pai busts than Yahoo Japan. 

That made me laugh way more than it should have.  😄

 

Oddly enough, I do happen to have an extra NS M+ Peach Pai bust here.  If I get a chance this weekend, I'll see if it works on my Saber Arturia or not.

 

Billy

I tried DDS-F3 feet on M.O.M.O. and DD-F3 feet on Asuna V1. They fit, and I think all they really need is a bit of tensioning to fit firmly. Side to side movement was just fine. You can move them farther side to side than a normal foot would ever naturally go, so no need to trim the vinyl back. You could simulate a badly broken ankle if you wanted to.

I suspect actual fit from doll to doll will vary a bit. I have read comments by people who bought F3 bodies and found that the feet fit loosely, and were tensioned all the way right out of the box. A small amount of tensioning goes a long way though. I am pretty sure after I sanded down Altria's foot pegs so her armored boots fit properly I only needed a half a turn to tighten the foot to the new peg size.

15 hours ago, BeyondTime said:

Billy could probably test a Peach Pai on an F3. He has Saber Altria, and I suspect he’s got more Peach Pai busts than Yahoo Japan.

Haha. I'd probably be using an Imoneko one though, because she has an M bust regularly available and the silicone itself is quite thick and doesn't require any additional supports. I'm sure it will fit as the vinyl busts are still the same from Volks, so what would cause the silicone one to suddenly not fit. 😛 But that's not a problem for this time anyway, as I don't have other DD girls planned.

 

8 hours ago, BeyondTime said:

I tried DDS-F3 feet on M.O.M.O. and DD-F3 feet on Asuna V1. They fit, and I think all they really need is a bit of tensioning to fit firmly. Side to side movement was just fine. You can move them farther side to side than a normal foot would ever naturally go, so no need to trim the vinyl back. You could simulate a badly broken ankle if you wanted to.

I suspect actual fit from doll to doll will vary a bit. I have read comments by people who bought F3 bodies and found that the feet fit loosely, and were tensioned all the way right out of the box. A small amount of tensioning goes a long way though. I am pretty sure after I sanded down Altria's foot pegs so her armored boots fit properly I only needed a half a turn to tighten the foot to the new peg size.

Thank you for testing them. ^^ I'm sure I can make them work as long as the fit is anywhere close. Will be including some feet in my next order from Volks -whenever that is. Last time I checked, half of what I wanted was out of stock again.

Edited May 15, 2019 by Yenna