The Facebook debacle & other issues

I'm not a fan of Danny by like. A lot of metrics. But I do think he has been encouraging more custom stuff, at least from his supporters- all those super elaborate 3D printed robotic busts and option parts and whatnot I've seen in pictures from those "Smartdoll Outposts" at cons for example, like a lot of people are actually doing really cool stuff with Smartdoll as a medium and I don't know if I'd say for sure he is against customization anymore? Then again I haven't seen any of these folks attempt any Dollfie Dream hybrids or similar, so for all I know that's still a no-go. It's a shame that he showed his true self and behavior before all this, or maybe not a shame- this is the type of maker/creator stuff I would have LOVED early on if it was encouraged as much, and now that Smartdoll itself is kind of spoiled for me a bit, it seems to be making a comeback. My feelings on this are absolutely not important in the grand scheme of things, but ngl, some of this new stuff is making me wish I could like the brand and such despite its issues. I still like the dolls themselves, after all. But maybe I dodged a bullet, so to speak.

I'm (not entirely) sorry to dredge this back up, but... are we really going to overlook how he handled the whole Space Marine bit? On my private doll Instagram, I can see that he still posts about them intermittently, still referring to this need to 'defeat the Entitled'. And his 'apology' FOR the (allegedly) unintended imagery was essentially, "fuck you guys, you just want me to close CJ and I'm not going to do that."

Like, given what is very much happening in the USA right now... I dunno, maybe it's just the fact that I'm a targeted minority making me feel a lot more upset about this than usual, but I feel like he's just constantly being given a minor slap on the wrist, even after reacting to criticisms with the volatile rage of a teenage edgelord on Twitter. I'm not trying to drag politics into this, not in the slightest. I just think a majority of the 'consequences' he faces for his frankly unacceptable behavior and poor treatment of customers who cross him are paltry and shallow when they should be a lot more substantial.

Quick Edit to add:

I don't think dolls matter all that much right now, in the grand scheme of things. I wanted to focus on my dolls, myself, but the powers that be have determined that I don't have that luxury. And that's what all our dolls are: a luxury. So maybe this doesn't matter as much as I feel like it does, maybe I am just riled up by the fact that we're witnessing atrocities on a scale we haven't seen since the 1930s. Maybe I'm just filled with that fear laden panic that comes with being one of the minorities being targeted by a regime that's taking inspiration from a certain dictator from 1933 Germany, petrified by the fact that my neck is being forced onto the chopping block and that I, as an individual, can do nothing to stop it. And maybe I'm just really upset by the fact that a very specific salute has become normalized in less than a week, so remembering this specific controversy of Danny's just makes me extra frustrated.

Still. Maybe he should be held accountable with more than a click of the tongue and a tap on the behind.

Edited February 1 by cinnabunroll

9 hours ago, cinnabunroll said:

Maybe he should be held accountable with more than a click of the tongue and a tap on the behind.

People ought to vote with their money. - "He spews hate, but I deserve a doll!"

I more and more struggle with how Smartdoll is still relevant. But I suppose I have a hard time differentiating between the art and the.... "artist", in this case.

Cinnabunroll is 110% correct here! Hearing about the space marine BS basically made me remember about DC's diversity stuff with SmD and that just adds fuel to the "he's doing the diversity stuff for brownie points and doesn't actually care" fire!

 

Shit like this is why even SmD's fans are just turning to DDs instead (I mentioned Figufoto earlier in the thread if you want a case of this)!!!

Edited February 1 by RozenGermain

11 hours ago, RozenGermain said:

Cinnabunroll is 110% correct here! Hearing about the space marine BS basically made me remember about DC's diversity stuff with SmD and that just adds fuel to the "he's doing the diversity stuff for brownie points and doesn't actually care" fire!

 

Shit like this is why even SmD's fans are just turning to DDs instead (I mentioned Figufoto earlier in the thread if you want a case of this)!!!

Brownie points with laxatives.  I know am turning to dd's after I finish my smd projects.  I also get where cinnabunroll is coming from. Smd Wars: The doll empire strikes back lol. A reference to dc's star wars obsession 

16 hours ago, RozenGermain said:

Hearing about the space marine BS basically made me remember about DC's diversity stuff with SmD and that just adds fuel to the "he's doing the diversity stuff for brownie points and doesn't actually care" fire!

The honest translation of his non-apology that I also screenshotted for convenience:

"I've got two things to apologize for today (but first, let me make it clear that I don’t actually feel sorry).

I’m only acknowledging this because people won’t shut up about it. I personally don’t think it’s a big deal, but now I have to pretend to see why others do.

Firstly, let me throw in an unrelated example about an anime to make it seem like red armbands can never have negative connotations. That way, I can imply that people upset about mine are overreacting.

Look, here’s another thing people are mad about that I think is dumb. If I make it seem like all cultural controversies are baseless, maybe people will stop criticizing my doll.

I am making excuses, but I don’t want you to call them that. And here they are...

People keep pointing out that some of my designs resemble hate symbols, but instead of considering why that might be an issue, I’m just going to act annoyed that I have to care.

Some people have been racist about my darker skinned dolls in the past, so that means all criticism of my designs must also be nonsense. I’m lumping legitimate concerns in with outright bigotry so I don’t have to take responsibility.

And here’s another completely ridiculous complaint that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. I’m bringing it up so I can make all criticism seem equally absurd.

I refuse to take any responsibility for what I put out into the world. Instead of acknowledging that certain design choices carry harmful implications, I’m pretending that people are just looking for reasons to be mad.

Anyway, I don’t actually care if this upsets people. If you don’t like it, you can leave. In fact, I’d rather you just stop buying from me than expect me to reflect on my choices."

I don't own any smart dolls, and I'm not really well versed in the drama at hand, but that "apology" is just a list of excuses.

The second half does contain some legitimate complaints in terms of unnecessary feedback, (people being against model hearing aids or darker toned dolls seems odd to me), but any legitimacy those complaints provide are thrown out the window once you read the 2nd to last paragraph. 

He's right that you can't please everyone, but there's a difference between having reasonable limits to representation and choosing to represent a historically nefarious political symbol for the sake of profits.

I just looked at the site to try to get a better look at things, and he seriously named a doll meant to represent autism "Limitless."

What a joke of a man.

36 minutes ago, CK170 said:

The second half does contain some legitimate complaints in terms of unnecessary feedback, (people being against model hearing aids or darker toned dolls seems odd to me), but any legitimacy those complaints provide are thrown out the window once you read the 2nd to last paragraph. 

I genuinely don't think he's actually had any complaints about the hearing aids. Maybe he had someone say something that ridiculous to him in a mocking, sarcastic way and he misinterpreted it as their real, actual opinion, but I cannot believe, in any capacity, that someone earnestly told him "don't make doll hearing aids because it will kill sign language, you monster" and meant it.

I can believe someone saying "you're making too many non-white dolls" to him, because the BJD community does have a racism problem, but the alleged disdain for disability rep?? I have my doubts.

59 minutes ago, cinnabunroll said:

I genuinely don't think he's actually had any complaints about the hearing aids. Maybe he had someone say something that ridiculous to him in a mocking, sarcastic way and he misinterpreted it as their real, actual opinion, but I cannot believe, in any capacity, that someone earnestly told him "don't make doll hearing aids because it will kill sign language, you monster" and meant it.

As much as I try not to participate in this thread- I have seen people argue that viewpoint in full sincerity. Enough times that I can see someone complaining about Smart Doll having hearing aids. Of course, it's usually terminally online types with nothing better to do, but I've absolutely seen the discussion go down numerous times. 

Somehow, when seeing some of the disclaimers at times, I still go "surely people aren't that stupid" or "please be a strawman" lol, but then I see someone within the doll community comment the same things he has posted... Like the "coffee and cocoa are too similar/look the same" thing, I was hoping to God it was a strawman. But I saw MULTIPLE people comment that on various platforms. lol. Like, tell me you don't live in a diverse area without telling me you don't live in a diverse area. You can tell the difference between DD Flesh and DD SWS but not cocoa/coffee? Or "cocoa is hard to photograph"... then learn basic photography skills? If you're going to COMPLAIN that something is difficult to photograph when it is genuinely nothing more than a skill issue, it's not the company's problem, lol. 

4 hours ago, CK170 said:

but there's a difference between having reasonable limits to representation and choosing to represent a historically nefarious political symbol for the sake of profits.

Armbands are a thing in Japan, different colors represent different jobs, so I really don't think he was trying to recreate Nazi symbolism. The image he posted was more likely just a mistake born from not thinking about the implications of a thing that he wasn't thinking of in that way so it didn't occur to him. I took a photo of my Rei with her outstretched and never occurred to me that it looked like a Nazi salute until the debate about CJ's Space Marine image occurred.

I definitely wasn't thinking Nazi's, so I never looked at it that way. Her arm isn't even raised above her head in the pose, but from this angle you can't really tell. 

40 minutes ago, BeyondTime said:

Armbands are a thing in Japan, different colors represent different jobs, so I really don't think he was trying to recreate Nazi symbolism. The image he posted was more likely just a mistake born from not thinking about the implications of a thing that he wasn't thinking of in that way so it didn't occur to him. I took a photo of my Rei with her outstretched and never occurred to me that it looked like a Nazi salute until the debate about CJ's Space Marine image occurred.

I definitely wasn't thinking Nazi's, so I never looked at it that way. Her arm isn't even raised above her head in the pose, but from this angle you can't really tell. 

I think they way the hand is positioned plus the perspective really makes that pose look innocuous. There, Rei's arm is stretched to her side, and her pal is facing the viewer, in the Nazi salute, the palm faces the ground, and normally the arm is stretched upwards to the front. The main thing with the space marine BS is that it was a red armband on a black jacket, something heaving associated with the SS uniform. i know about the armband thing too, but that doesn't change the tone-deafness DC had towards the whole thing. If the jacket was a different color or the perspective was different and made it clear that the arm was raised at the side to show off the band, the whole scandal probably wouldn't have even happened! Hell, if you look at a JP character with a red armband on a black jacket (I'm talking about Persona 3's MC for context), the official art makes it look obvious that the band and jacket are part of a school uniform, which is where I see armbands generally in anime at least. And if I look at modern Japanese military uniforms, armbands are absent. Honestly I think that just adds to Danny's tone-deafness, as armbands are something I expect to see in the context of anime either in a school setting, or discount Nazi characters.

Edited February 2 by RozenGermain

As I discussed earlier in this thread, as an artist, it's easy to get caught up in your vision and not realize the implications until other sets of eyes are on it. I've definitely made posing snafus where people have gone "why are they grabbing their junk." Unintentional blind spots are an unavoidable part of the human consciousness!

It's his response to valid concerns from fans of targeted marginalized communities that leaves the bad taste in my mouth. If he had taken the criticism, made a sincere apology, said something to the effect of "I didn't realize how this would look, it was never my intention, I'm truly sorry to the people I hurt," etc., it wouldn't have turned into the massive deal that it did. However, as we can all see, that is not what ended up happening. Additionally, Japan has some very not great teachings about the events of WWII (they teach it as a traditional war, which it very much was not), so hiding behind "uwu but Japanese culture/high school/whatever" isn't exactly the defense that Danny, a man raised in England, thinks it is.

With regards to his other reactions to community opinions (like skin tones and disability rep), he desperately needs a PR team/social media manager. He is too personally invested in the brand to take any feedback on the chin. You are right, you can't please everyone and there's always going to be someone to complain, particularly now given the current US political state (which I will elaborate on no further to avoid derailing this thread). The appropriate response to people who complain about these things is to log off, go outside, and touch some grass. Yeah, the commenters may be terminally online, but the thing is so is Danny. Back in ye olden internet days, people who gave purposefully inflammatory feedback were considered trolls and internet users were told to ignore them outright, not do "epic clapbacks" or whatever the kids call it nowadays.

As for why SmartDoll is still relevant and people still buy them, Danny still has the market cornered on the diversity angle. It is unlikely that Volks will ever release a truly African skin tone. It is more unlikely that Volks will ever release a plus-sized body. These things are present in the resin community, but not everyone likes or wants resin dolls in their collection. Unless and until a direct competitor shows up with comparably diverse products at a similar price point, SmartDoll isn't going to go away.

Edited February 2 by Thespian

49 minutes ago, BeyondTime said:

Armbands are a thing in Japan

And he's advertising to outside of Japan, no?

He should take into consideration that not everyone is versed on Japanese culture/customs then. Or understand that it is a risky look.
Not throw a toddler tantrum that nobody understands him.
It IS reminiscent of nazi uniforms to most of the world, even if it is not intended to be. So the least he could do is not not talk about defeating the entitled in the same breath... How tone-deaf can one be?

4 hours ago, cinnabunroll said:

I genuinely don't think he's actually had any complaints about the hearing aids.

I think people were complaining about the type of hearing aids. (Cochlear implants are a divisive topic, I think?)
But with his track record of not being able to take criticism, I'm pretty sure he took that as an in to paint himself as a victim and turn it into "people do not support disabilities and my selfless act of... uh... inclusivity!".

15 minutes ago, Yumeiro said:

And he's advertising to outside of Japan, no?

He should take into consideration that not everyone is versed on Japanese culture/customs then. Or understand that it is a risky look.
Not throw a toddler tantrum that nobody understands him.
It IS reminiscent of nazi uniforms to most of the world, even if it is not intended to be. So the least he could do is not not talk about defeating the entitled in the same breath... How tone-deaf can one be?

Yeah, pretty much! Even with the context I had about JP it just made Danny look even more tone-deaf than he already was!

9 hours ago, cinnabunroll said:

The honest translation of his non-apology that I also screenshotted for convenience:

"I've got two things to apologize for today (but first, let me make it clear that I don’t actually feel sorry).

I’m only acknowledging this because people won’t shut up about it. I personally don’t think it’s a big deal, but now I have to pretend to see why others do.

Firstly, let me throw in an unrelated example about an anime to make it seem like red armbands can never have negative connotations. That way, I can imply that people upset about mine are overreacting.

Look, here’s another thing people are mad about that I think is dumb. If I make it seem like all cultural controversies are baseless, maybe people will stop criticizing my doll.

I am making excuses, but I don’t want you to call them that. And here they are...

People keep pointing out that some of my designs resemble hate symbols, but instead of considering why that might be an issue, I’m just going to act annoyed that I have to care.

Some people have been racist about my darker skinned dolls in the past, so that means all criticism of my designs must also be nonsense. I’m lumping legitimate concerns in with outright bigotry so I don’t have to take responsibility.

And here’s another completely ridiculous complaint that has nothing to do with the issue at hand. I’m bringing it up so I can make all criticism seem equally absurd.

I refuse to take any responsibility for what I put out into the world. Instead of acknowledging that certain design choices carry harmful implications, I’m pretending that people are just looking for reasons to be mad.

Anyway, I don’t actually care if this upsets people. If you don’t like it, you can leave. In fact, I’d rather you just stop buying from me than expect me to reflect on my choices."

crazy, isn't it.

6 hours ago, RozenGermain said:

but that doesn't change the tone-deafness DC had towards the whole thing.

I agree about the tone-deafness, I just don't believe he was deliberately making an image of Nazi symbolism.

 

6 hours ago, RozenGermain said:

the official art makes it look obvious that the band and jacket are part of a school uniform, which is where I see armbands generally in anime at least.

I am pretty sure it's school uniforms that inspired his image.

 

I'd also point out that not everyone receives the same information during education. In the US we learned a lot about Germany and the events that led to the rise of fascism, but we learned almost nothing about Japan's history and what led to the Pacific War. It's normal for our World History to focus on Europe and ignore Asia. I have no idea what is normal for where Danny grew up, but I don't think it's safe to assume that he would necessarily jump straight to Nazi symbolism when looking at his Space Marine. Overall we tend to look at things as if everyone thinks as we do, but that's not reality, and it's rooted our inability to understand that which lies outside of our own frame of reference. 

I don't think the artistic direction he chose for the Space Marine outfit is in and of itself purposely meant to be reminiscent of Nazism, and I believe him when he says he thought it was just an aesthetic. The issue is the way all the individual issues came together and how he reacted to it:

The pose itself is innocuous.

The armband itself is innocuous.

The weird, mile long blog post beneath the photos was innocuous.

But when you put all three together (the outstretched arm, the armband, and the "eliminate the Entitled vermin" message), it has a very uncomfortably similar vibe to a very specific salute and mentality that is (unfortunately) making a comeback. He was told by fans and critics alike, some of whom were Jewish, that the imagery was eerily reminiscent. Instead of owning up to it or at the very least changing the blurb, he doubled down with a nasty non-apology that shifted the blame onto those who critcized him.

And anyway, I'm not inclined to believe everything he says about himself. He has proven himself to be someone who is willing to lie and exaggerate to garner attention or sympathy. Like the wig fiasco, where he made that mile long Instagram post about how they were 'so so mean' to him for their requesting a replacement after receiving a messed up product. Or how he mocked a disabled customer for not having the hand strength to put the arms back into their sockets. And he still has not apologized for the BLM post he made where he likened the criticism his dolls (plastic and vinyl) receive to the systemic violence and injustice BIPOC (real, living, flesh and blood people) face in America at the hands of law enforcement (yes, he took it down within an hour of posting it when he received a massively negative response, but he never sat down and said "I'm sorry, that was tone deaf of me").

So I'm more inclined to believe he's at least sympathetic to such mindsets until he is willing to prove he isn't by making a genuine apology that doesn't deflect or shift blame or make him out to be the Real Victim.

And honestly, I don't think it matters that he corners the market on diversity with vinyl dolls, because when his activism is so performative that he flippantly uses alleged criticisms against disability rep he faces as cannon fodder against valid criticisms of his business practices and behavior (but then turns around and mocks disabled people who struggle with his products), then diversity clearly means nothing to him in any capacity beyond profit. I'd personally go so far as to say his emphasis on diversity with skin colors and disabilities has everything to do with one-upping Volks however he can and nothing to do with actual representation.

We all have to sit back and remember that this is not a self-made man. This is a wealthy man who was born into and comes from one of the worlds top fashion houses. He is a wealthy man who has spent his adult life online acting like a petulant child toward any criticism he recieves (valid or otherwise), hypersexualizing his canonically underaged OCs, misusing and misrepresenting Japanese philosophies like Wabi Sabi to explain away rampant quality control issues, adding fuel to the fire of a one-sided fued he has with Volks, and bullying/banning customers for even minor criticisms.

The only reason his products remain so popular is because his customer base is made up primarily of children, young adults, and YouTube personalities who promote his product as if they are the best invention to ever hit the doll market. As Yumeiro said earlier, it's that selfish mentality of "He spews hate, but I deserve a doll!" that keeps his sales so high.

Important Note:

I don't even think his dolls, on their own, are actually that bad. I like the variety in skin tones, I like that there is rep for disabilities, and I actually really like aesthetics of the Pear Body (even if it is flawed) — but I'm not willing to compromise my morals or try to handwave away Danny's repetatively negative behavior just to retain unfettered access to his products.

It matters to me that he behaves the way he does, that he mistreats people, that he refuses to acknowledge even accidental wrongdoing, more than it matters to me to placate his ego and dance around my words just so I don't get banned from buying his dolls. His dolls, while interesting and nice on their own, are not important enough to overlook the many instances where he's lashed out at people who didn't deserve it and banned others for even being in the vicinity or online group of someone who'd made him upset. His dolls are not worth diverting my firmly held morals and beliefs or my sense of justice in order to own them.

Personal enjoyment and satisfaction with a product shouldn't override ethics.

Edited February 3 by cinnabunroll

8 hours ago, Yumeiro said:

I think people were complaining about the type of hearing aids. (Cochlear implants are a divisive topic, I think?)

To give a very brief synopsis about the controversy of cochlears: deafness is not just a disability, but also a social minority of people. Like, there's capital-d Deaf culture. So a lot of Deaf people don't like cochlears because instead of giving deaf children the ability to choose whether or not they would like a hearing aid later in life and teaching them about ASL and Deaf culture, a lot of hearing parents choose surgical intervention on their small children and call it a day. That said, people wearing cochlears is very much a thing and nobody really is mad at the people who wear them or choose to get them as adults, so I think it's fine to portray them? Especially if you also show other kinds of hearing aids as well.

(source: My mom is an american sign language interpreter who interacts with Deaf people every day)

1 hour ago, PlasticJester said:

To give a very brief synopsis about the controversy of cochlears: deafness is not just a disability, but also a social minority of people. Like, there's capital-d Deaf culture. So a lot of Deaf people don't like cochlears because instead of giving deaf children the ability to choose whether or not they would like a hearing aid later in life and teaching them about ASL and Deaf culture, a lot of hearing parents choose surgical intervention on their small children and call it a day. That said, people wearing cochlears is very much a thing and nobody really is mad at the people who wear them or choose to get them as adults, so I think it's fine to portray them? Especially if you also show other kinds of hearing aids as well.

(source: My mom is an american sign language interpreter who interacts with Deaf people every day)

Cochlear implants are also an imperfect technology. Some inner-ear/brain nerdery below:

Sound travels in waves, which are then funneled into your ear by the outer ear structures to the ear drum. Behind your ear drum is a series of three small bones which, when vibrated by the ear drum due to sound waves, produce electrical impulses, which then travel into your brain and are processed by your auditory neural centers. The innermost bone of these is the cochlea, which is hollow, full of fluid, and lined with very very tiny hairs. The vibrations travel through the fluids and stimulate different hairs, which align with different frequencies of sound. This is where the electrical impulse part originates.

In hearing individuals, damage to the hairs of the cochlea results in loss of auditory processing at those frequencies, so you can't hear sounds in those ranges anymore. However, your brain still has the neural structure to process those auditory ranges even in the total absence of input. This discrepancy (no input to stimulate existing neuron structures) is what results in tinnitus!

However, for individuals with congenital deafness, these neuron structures typically do not develop because there's no stimulus to promote it. The brain is very good at pruning away connections and pathways that we do not use with regularity, so when applying cochlear implants to adults, they may be helpful for navigating a hearing-oriented world but cannot fully compensate for a lack of hearing early in life. I have a friend who is capital-D Deaf with a cochlear implant and she still requires extensive disability accommodations for education/employment and frequently struggles to follow spoken conversations, particularly in group settings. Unfortunately, cochlear implants placed in early childhood result in the greatest potential for an "average," hearing-oriented life. However, as PlasticJester said, children with cochlear implants are typically denied access to Deaf culture by hearing parents and, by nature, children are unable to consent to surgical operations, which negates the child's implicit right to self-determination. Sticky stuff!

3 hours ago, cinnabunroll said:

Personal enjoyment and satisfaction with a product shouldn't override ethics.

You are assuming that most of his buyers are "in the know" with regards to his antics here.

For the record, I agree that we should hold our ethics and values above our desire to own a luxury product (I bought my SmD right before the whole Nazi imagery thing happened and to this day, playing with her leaves a sour taste in my mouth). Do not let my criticism of this point in particular lead you to believe that I disagree with you on that front.

I personally know several SmartDoll owners, both on other platforms and in real life, who have never followed his twitter/instagram or the broader community. I don't believe it would be a stretch to say that most of his buyers go to his website, pick a doll they like, and buy it without thinking too much about the "who" and "how" of his broader operation, especially since he explicitly markets himself to those new to the hobby and offers more diversity than his competitors. It does, in fact, matter when an uneducated layman is looking to buy a doll, particularly their first doll(s). It matters when it's a parent looking to buy a doll that looks like their child. It matters when performative diversity for capitalistic reasons is the canary in the coal mine for how the broader public feels about our communities.

These things do not matter to you because you know what Danny has done and it is (rightfully) a deal breaker. I will never purchase a SmartDoll directly from Danny again because I cannot make that kind of a concession on my personal ethics. But it is also a cruel assumption to believe that everyone who purchases a SmartDoll knows what he has done and has elected to purchase anyway.

46 minutes ago, Thespian said:

These things do not matter to you because you know what Danny has done and it is (rightfully) a deal breaker. I will never purchase a SmartDoll directly from Danny again because I cannot make that kind of a concession on my personal ethics. But it is also a cruel assumption to believe that everyone who purchases a SmartDoll knows what he has done and has elected to purchase anyway.

I do apologize if I made it seem like I was attempting to make a blanket assumption about all buyers/owners. That was my mistake. I should have clarified that I meant specifically the buyers who are aware of his behavior but excuse it and continue to buy Smart Dolls regardless. Thank you.

7 hours ago, cinnabunroll said:

So I'm more inclined to believe he's at least sympathetic to such mindsets until he is willing to prove he isn't by making a genuine apology that doesn't deflect or shift blame or make him out to be the Real Victim.

The problem there is that his behavior is in keeping with plain simple narcissism, and that doesn't require anything other than a delusional self-centered worldview to explain his words and behavior.

Just to be clear, we have no way of knowing if he is a narcissist in the sense of a behavior disorder, but if he is, every conflict centered on his own actions will end with him reciting The Narcissist's Prayer. It doesn't require a fascist ideology, just an inability to see himself as in the wrong in any circumstance and see the truth as whatever he needs it to be in any given moment.

Speaking of DC's behavior, some people saw his dolls @ a recent con, asked out of curiosity what they, we're, and were, met with a dry comment, and I quote: Thier voo doo dolls.". And walked off. hmmm I wonder..

Edited February 3 by DollyDearest

13 minutes ago, DollyDearest said:

Speaking of DC's behavior, some people saw his dolls @ a recent con, asked out of curiosity what they, we're, and were, met with a dry comment, and I quote: Thier voo doo dolls.". And walked off. hmmm I wonder..

Weird..... Voodoo dolls are meant for communication with the dead if you ask people who actually are part of the vodou religion, and also exclusive to the Orleans sect! Again, DC wants brownie points lol!