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Nines

It seems like a tactic to me? 
if all the products was criticized in such way wouldn't be the brand ran out of stuff to sell 😂

TLDR post

The tactic you’re describing is a form of scarcity marketing and psychological manipulation often used by sellers to create hype and increase demand. Here’s how it works and why it’s effective:

 

1. Artificial Scarcity & Urgency

• By threatening to cancel a soon-to-be-released item due to “negative comments,” the seller creates urgency and fear of missing out (FOMO).

• Consumers who were unsure or hesitant may now feel pressured to act quickly, pre-ordering or showing support to prevent cancellation.

 

2. Controversy as a Marketing Strategy

• Drama and controversy often generate more engagement and discussion.

• Even negative comments can boost visibility and reach, making the product more well-known.

• People who may not have noticed the product before might start paying attention.

 

3. Rallying Loyal Fans for Support

• By framing the situation as “haters” vs. “fans,” sellers can encourage loyal supporters to defend the product and increase demand.

• This can lead to:

• More social media buzz.

• More pre-orders or sales from fans who want to “save” the product.

• A stronger brand community.

 

4. Testing Market Interest Before Full Release

• Some sellers use this tactic as a soft market test.

• If the backlash is strong and there isn’t enough positive support, they might quietly cancel the product to avoid losses.

• If enough people demand it despite the “threat,” they know the item has strong market potential.

 

5. Reverse Psychology & Exclusivity

• When something is “at risk of being canceled,” it can suddenly feel more valuable and exclusive.

• People who were indifferent may now feel the need to get involved, increasing demand.

 

6. Seller Gains Control Over Public Perception

• By making the narrative about negative comments, the seller shifts blame from themselves to the consumers.

• If the product doesn’t sell well, they can say, “We had to cancel it because of negativity,” instead of admitting potential lack of demand.

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DollyDearest
31 minutes ago, Nines said:

It seems like a tactic to me? 
if all the products was criticized in such way wouldn't be the brand ran out of stuff to sell 😂

TLDR post

The tactic you’re describing is a form of scarcity marketing and psychological manipulation often used by sellers to create hype and increase demand. Here’s how it works and why it’s effective:

 

1. Artificial Scarcity & Urgency

• By threatening to cancel a soon-to-be-released item due to “negative comments,” the seller creates urgency and fear of missing out (FOMO).

• Consumers who were unsure or hesitant may now feel pressured to act quickly, pre-ordering or showing support to prevent cancellation.

 

2. Controversy as a Marketing Strategy

• Drama and controversy often generate more engagement and discussion.

• Even negative comments can boost visibility and reach, making the product more well-known.

• People who may not have noticed the product before might start paying attention.

 

3. Rallying Loyal Fans for Support

• By framing the situation as “haters” vs. “fans,” sellers can encourage loyal supporters to defend the product and increase demand.

• This can lead to:

• More social media buzz.

• More pre-orders or sales from fans who want to “save” the product.

• A stronger brand community.

 

4. Testing Market Interest Before Full Release

• Some sellers use this tactic as a soft market test.

• If the backlash is strong and there isn’t enough positive support, they might quietly cancel the product to avoid losses.

• If enough people demand it despite the “threat,” they know the item has strong market potential.

 

5. Reverse Psychology & Exclusivity

• When something is “at risk of being canceled,” it can suddenly feel more valuable and exclusive.

• People who were indifferent may now feel the need to get involved, increasing demand.

 

6. Seller Gains Control Over Public Perception

• By making the narrative about negative comments, the seller shifts blame from themselves to the consumers.

• If the product doesn’t sell well, they can say, “We had to cancel it because of negativity,” instead of admitting potential lack of demand.

And it worked, I saw a post on FB, someone posted from Twitter X   boys cancelled, and are now going to chaos.     seems your post predicted the inevibitable  

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Anna-neko

ha ha, well that didn't take long??

 

I think his inability to let someone else do a thing instead of admitting he lacks the skill/knowledge and actually sharing credit might as well get added to that mile-long list of issues. Which absolutely is the foundation of all the rest of *gestures at all other problems*

The molds are outdated and don't allow better frame posing? Plus-size doll frame has an issue? Let someone else come in to help with design!! Damn dude, you could have absolutely cornered the market in that niche (even with the higher prices), but noooooo  lets pages long word-vomit and blame the meanies online instead

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Islenski

I logged into my account for the first time in years for this. This whole situation is insane to me, well, not really knowing Danny's history but still, it's insane to me that people can see this manchild acting like the world's biggest baby and blaming his community for problems he created and then continue to worship him in the way they do. It's so culty to me. I don't know who would want to be involved in a hobby with so much drama and frankly weird behavior from the creator himself. He's a middle aged man running a business, but acts like teenager taking time out of his day to respond to trolls and naysayers on twitter with snarky remarks instead of actually focusing on production and the rest of his community. It's just embarassing to watch this all go down.

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Miabird24

This entire situation is so bizarre. I never understood the whole "the boys have quality issues so they are discontinued" thing with him. If they have issues FIX IT? I personally don't care about boy dolls but a lot of people waited forever for this. I agree with everyone else that this seems like an excuse to axe boys forever since he personally doesn't like them.

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Yuan

I'm just confused by still making them but only dropping them in chaos. Like, if they're the same doll in the same sculpt what is the difference between chaos and a regular drop at that point, other than the chaos purchase restrictions? It's so silly.

I'll probably sit out a few chaos drops and hope to catch one reasonably priced secondhand if the stock remains semi-constant. I still want an evolve frame boy, but this has become exhausting. 

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Giragira

I got curious and looked on my dead Twitter and found this posted a little while ago. So they...aren't canceled? Still being petty but that's nothing new

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c_aw_miko
3 hours ago, Nines said:

It seems like a tactic to me? 
if all the products was criticized in such way wouldn't be the brand ran out of stuff to sell 😂

TLDR post

The tactic you’re describing is a form of scarcity marketing and psychological manipulation often used by sellers to create hype and increase demand. Here’s how it works and why it’s effective:

 

1. Artificial Scarcity & Urgency

• By threatening to cancel a soon-to-be-released item due to “negative comments,” the seller creates urgency and fear of missing out (FOMO).

• Consumers who were unsure or hesitant may now feel pressured to act quickly, pre-ordering or showing support to prevent cancellation.

 

2. Controversy as a Marketing Strategy

• Drama and controversy often generate more engagement and discussion.

• Even negative comments can boost visibility and reach, making the product more well-known.

• People who may not have noticed the product before might start paying attention.

 

3. Rallying Loyal Fans for Support

• By framing the situation as “haters” vs. “fans,” sellers can encourage loyal supporters to defend the product and increase demand.

• This can lead to:

• More social media buzz.

• More pre-orders or sales from fans who want to “save” the product.

• A stronger brand community.

 

4. Testing Market Interest Before Full Release

• Some sellers use this tactic as a soft market test.

• If the backlash is strong and there isn’t enough positive support, they might quietly cancel the product to avoid losses.

• If enough people demand it despite the “threat,” they know the item has strong market potential.

 

5. Reverse Psychology & Exclusivity

• When something is “at risk of being canceled,” it can suddenly feel more valuable and exclusive.

• People who were indifferent may now feel the need to get involved, increasing demand.

 

6. Seller Gains Control Over Public Perception

• By making the narrative about negative comments, the seller shifts blame from themselves to the consumers.

• If the product doesn’t sell well, they can say, “We had to cancel it because of negativity,” instead of admitting potential lack of demand.

you were absolutely right! he posted this an half an hour ago

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this is lame and corny. i have nothing else to say. 

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Yuan

Yeah, turns out the initial post wasn't super clear - they will still be made, just only sold in chaos for now.

My initial interpretation was the current stock was it and it'd get tossed in chaos and done, but it looks like they're simply a chaos only release to lower expectations to 'chaos' levels.

It's such a headache, but that's better than nothing.

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Islenski
2 minutes ago, c_aw_miko said:

this is lame and corny. i have nothing else to say. 

This whole back and forth and unnecessary drama is so exhausting. Seriously so immature. This is a pattern so it's to be expected, but dangling this carrot over the faces of everyone only to take it away and then bring crumbs back and act like it was all planned, while also acting like a victim in distress is just so pathetic to me.

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Islenski

Also, Hi Danny, since I know you endlessly obsess over your own self image, you lurk here in this thread and the facebook groups to find negative things to get upset over.

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seth

So the boys will be available… but only to repeat customers. 😑 so even though I want a boy, I won’t be able to get one simply because I don’t want to buy a girl doll.

Though after all this it’s put me off the brand I think, at least buying first hand

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