DD Dynamite

Hi everyone!

Recently I posted "10 things I wish for DD" 

My #9 was Dynamite Busts. 

I'm sorry if I offended anyone. I love Dynamites, I really do. I just think they could make the busts the tiniest bit smaller. 

I am trying not to offend anyone. 

I hope you guys understand. 

Thanks!

KMM

 

I'm a big busted gal, and I modded a large shapely bust for my Towa. Nothing wrong with her original bust, but I just didn't care for the look of it. She has the biggest boobs on any of my dolls, but I think of it as "Well, I can't help my bust size, so neither can she!" 😄

 

You're okay

It probably looks huge to me cuz I'm male and completely flat chested. Like flat flat. Smaller than DD SS Bust. LOL

I wasn't offended per se, and like I said, I wasn't trying to single you out. More and more lately, there have been many negative sentiments expressed regarding the size and shape of the dynamite bust. This just makes me a bit defensive, because as someone with a comparable bust in real life, I feel sad that this bust is being disparaged. Although it may be the case that the bust was originally created to be overtly sexy, like @Deyja said, you can't help your bust size. Not all dynamite girls need be overtly sexy all the time. My first girl is a DDdy, and her personality is that she's a bit self conscious and tends to dress conservatively. I chose the body as my first when making a custom because I identified with it, and because I liked that it's easier to hide the torso seam when using a bikini or something. I don't think there's a need to make the dynamite bust smaller by default,  because this would probably run the risk of just losing the larger option entirely, which I personally would not be happy about. There are already smaller busts available from the DD body, though they do have to be modded.

Anyway, like I said,  I'm not really offended or even angry. I just got defensive because I identify with the dynamite body and many people keep saying negative things about the bust, which I don't really find necessary. If you don't like it, you're free to change it.

PS Sorry I got wordy again. I answer emails for a living, and I write formally and in detail by default. This is me writing informally, because I'm using contractions. For work, those are not allowed (which makes people think a robot is replying rather than a person 😋).

Another in agreement that you can't choose your bust size IRL but at least you can choose it for your DD. I'm all for more variety being available. As long as production of everything stays feasible for them to be made, of course. The dynamite bust isn't my taste, but it's completely a stylistic thing for me and not a size or a shape thing.

As someone else in the busty camp, it can be hard not to get defensive about it. Logically you'd hope everyone is sticking to talking about the aesthetics of the doll itself, but I've seen a lot of really discouraging and stereotyping kinds of comments about larger busts(on resin BJD and vinyl, not singling anything out in particular) and as someone with a larger chest myself sometimes it does sometimes make me feel bad about myself too. When I identify with the body type of a doll, it gets difficult for me to not take it personally sometimes. It's kind of why all my dolls are super flat, I went in the reverse lol.

(Hilariously, the only doll I have debated sticking an L bust on is one my MDDs because I get so sick and tired of all the "large chests on pre-teen characters is GROSS and IMPOSSIBLE" comments when I was shaped like that as a kid...it's become such a pet peeve of mine. But that's not the point here lol.)

  On 7/16/2020 at 10:18 AM, Noxxbunny said:

Another in agreement that you can't choose your bust size IRL but at least you can choose it for your DD. I'm all for more variety being available. As long as production of everything stays feasible for them to be made, of course. The dynamite bust isn't my taste, but it's completely a stylistic thing for me and not a size or a shape thing.

As someone else in the busty camp, it can be hard not to get defensive about it. Logically you'd hope everyone is sticking to talking about the aesthetics of the doll itself, but I've seen a lot of really discouraging and stereotyping kinds of comments about larger busts(on resin BJD and vinyl, not singling anything out in particular) and as someone with a larger chest myself sometimes it does sometimes make me feel bad about myself too. When I identify with the body type of a doll, it gets difficult for me to not take it personally sometimes. It's kind of why all my dolls are super flat, I went in the reverse lol.

 

  On 7/16/2020 at 12:24 AM, Jezrah said:

I wasn't offended per se, and like I said, I wasn't trying to single you out. More and more lately, there have been many negative sentiments expressed regarding the size and shape of the dynamite bust. This just makes me a bit defensive, because as someone with a comparable bust in real life, I feel sad that this bust is being disparaged. Although it may be the case that the bust was originally created to be overtly sexy, like @Deyja said, you can't help your bust size. Not all dynamite girls need be overtly sexy all the time. My first girl is a DDdy, and her personality is that she's a bit self conscious and tends to dress conservatively. I chose the body as my first when making a custom because I identified with it, and because I liked that it's easier to hide the torso seam when using a bikini or something. I don't think there's a need to make the dynamite bust smaller by default,  because this would probably run the risk of just losing the larger option entirely, which I personally would not be happy about. There are already smaller busts available from the DD body, though they do have to be modded.

Anyway, like I said,  I'm not really offended or even angry. I just got defensive because I identify with the dynamite body and many people keep saying negative things about the bust, which I don't really find necessary. If you don't like it, you're free to change it.

Funnily enough, even though I'm considering modding an S-Bust on a DDdy, DDdy is my favorite real-life body type. DDdy's hips are amazing, my god.

I'm rather flat-chested myself, but I've always liked the way curves look. I was actually upset that they decreased Tifa's bust size in the FFVII remake; it wasn't as extreme as it could have been, but I still feel like it was disingenuous to her character.

Isn’t the problem with the DDdy bust more about that there isn’t a natural bust option like Yoko’s? It would be great if they made her bust a standard part 🤔

Actually it would be great if they just released her again, I’d be in for it (･･’) 

I really like the hips and tummy on the DDdy! The big bust options are fine to me, DDdy has curves that a DD lacks, but it might be nice if smaller busts were compatible so people could have the option to make a pear shaped body silhouette too.

I'm a guy too and I love the DDdy body. My favorite part besides the hips, butt, and legs is the bust. But I like huge bust on my dolls. I'm recently starting to open up to flat chested dolls like my DDS Akira and my DD Yukino. But I have to admit that I would love for the DDdy to have a more natural Large bust type (similar to the DD Large type) but I'm not honestly bother by her current bust type and size. To me the larger the better LOL

 

  On 7/20/2020 at 7:20 AM, foo said:

Isn’t the problem with the DDdy bust more about that there isn’t a natural bust option like Yoko’s? It would be great if they made her bust a standard part 🤔

Actually it would be great if they just released her again, I’d be in for it (･･’) 

I never understood why people always refer to Yoko's bust as more "natural"? Her breasts are slightly farther apart, but are otherwise more or less the same size and shape. In real life this would mean that she would be wearing a different style of bra, of the lift and separate type, as opposed to the type that creates cleavage. That's just a personal preference in bras, not what breasts of that size look like without a bra. Unless we're talking about implants, which are not natural, you won't see underboob.

 

  On 7/21/2020 at 10:32 AM, MagicalRinchan said:

I really like the hips and tummy on the DDdy! The big bust options are fine to me, DDdy has curves that a DD lacks, but it might be nice if smaller busts were compatible so people could have the option to make a pear shaped body silhouette too.

The smaller busts are compatible, though. If you want to keep them the same height, you will need to trim some of the vinyl off the bottom to make the bust the same shape as the standard DDdy bust, but as has been shown in other threads, if you don't mind their torso getting longer you can just plop a smaller bust on as is.

  On 7/21/2020 at 2:59 PM, Jezrah said:

I never understood why people always refer to Yoko's bust as more "natural"? Her breasts are slightly farther apart, but are otherwise more or less the same size and shape.

That's true, and TBH I haven't seen that many pics of Yoko (sadly...) so I can't compare. It does get weird with the large non-shapely bust when you're trying to fit clothes and the breasts are unnaturally farther apart (this outfit comes to mind. It looks ok in the pic but an outfit like that should be tighter).

I think the problem is that the DDdy busts are really sexy, and that's not always what someone wants to see in their doll. I think there's customers who really appreciate the body style but are vexed about the sexiness. It doesn't help when you're shopping for your first doll and you're just comparing the pics of the naked bodies.

I'm looking at the regular DD busts now, and getting the shapely bust isn't a bad idea for better fit of some outfits (･･') I actually forgot they made it. I only let Sakuya wear the large bust because that's her natural size, but like I said, the fit of the non-shapely doesn't look right sometimes so I like sticking to the medium bust.

  On 7/21/2020 at 5:03 PM, foo said:

I think the problem is that the DDdy busts are really sexy, and that's not always what someone wants to see in their doll. I think there's customers who really appreciate the body style but are vexed about the sexiness. It doesn't help when you're shopping for your first doll and you're just comparing the pics of the naked bodies.

This, pretty much. I understand the target demographic of DDdy is probably a male otaku consumer who is attracted to huge anime titties but it's also the only adult-age DD body with a curvier figure in other respects too. Not to confuse the issue with "BIG BOOBIE = BAD >: (" because that's not it at all, but I think the key here is sexualization. DDdy feel hypersexualized, probably because that was the aim of the line. Whether or not one sees this as an issue will vary greatly on their lived experiences and privilege in the matter though.

*steps on soapbox*

For example, the statement of "DDdy have large implant-looking breasts because the characters they portray have that feature" is true, though that is a surface level understanding. It's cause and effect. The next line of question would be "why do characters look like this? Who designs this and for what audience? What does this do for women in the real world?". This same line of questioning can be applied to most hypersexual media (like if we lived in an alternate universe where the DDP line was marketed in a sexual manner). 

We exist in a world where sexuality bombards us to sell us things at every opportunity, and perhaps if you are a man or were socialized male that is not something evident to you at all. Hell, there are plenty of women who would see this as needlessly preachy too. That's how my experience has been though.

  On 7/21/2020 at 2:59 PM, Jezrah said:

I never understood why people always refer to Yoko's bust as more "natural"? Her breasts are slightly farther apart, but are otherwise more or less the same size and shape.

As a yoko owner.. they are overall more rounded... to make a rather, crude explanation I'll let a deceaced comedian perhaps try and explain what im on about:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJqXlcCueb4

(watch at own risk, a Robin Williams live skit about boobies, might be offensive - You have been warned.)

They have a little bit more droop to them, that makes them seem less like a pair of torpedoes, in my opinion, also Yoko's bust comes smooth so the nipples arent there to further add to this shape.

gaby005

gaby064

 

Perhaps what puzzles me most about the standard dynamite bust is the gravity defiance look of them, though perhaps depending on the outfit, for instance a corset could make it work.

EDIT, I might be remembering the shapely DDy more ... ironically right after typing this, I ran into a few photo's of a ddy the side profile on the normal bust isnt quite what I recalled it to be ... maybe time to go poach some crow for dinner ... or maybe it is just the lack of prominent nipples that make the overall difference.

Edited July 21, 2020 by finnleo

For me, the hips and legs of the DDdy look a lot more natural than those of DDs so I like it a bit more. I do wish the bust was more natural, though. It looks a little comical because of how spherical it is, even in a top with a normal neckline. I agree it kinda looks like bad implants. Smartdoll has some busts that look like slightly better representations of cleavage when clothed. 

Edited July 21, 2020 by sweets

  On 7/21/2020 at 5:31 PM, Kotone said:

This, pretty much. I understand the target demographic of DDdy is probably a male otaku consumer who is attracted to huge anime titties but it's also the only adult-age DD body with a curvier figure in other respects too. Not to confuse the issue with "BIG BOOBIE = BAD >: (" because that's not it at all, but I think the key here is sexualization. DDdy feel hypersexualized, probably because that was the aim of the line. Whether or not one sees this as an issue will vary greatly on their lived experiences and privilege in the matter though.

*steps on soapbox*

For example, the statement of "DDdy have large implant-looking breasts because the characters they portray have that feature" is true, though that is a surface level understanding. It's cause and effect. The next line of question would be "why do characters look like this? Who designs this and for what audience? What does this do for women in the real world?". This same line of questioning can be applied to most hypersexual media (like if we lived in an alternate universe where the DDP line was marketed in a sexual manner). 

We exist in a world where sexuality bombards us to sell us things at every opportunity, and perhaps if you are a man or were socialized male that is not something evident to you at all. Hell, there are plenty of women who would see this as needlessly preachy too. That's how my experience has been though.

 

 

Why is is that everytime a male collector likes a figure with big bust he is label as perv that like to sexualize the female figure. I love the DDdy body, and I love dolls with big bust. Yes I am a male, but I'm a gay male. I have never seen a women in a sexual or desirable manner. 

I just like how the doll shape look. I have seen plantly of female doll collector collect male dolls with tons of muscles and nobody ever accuse them of sexualizing males.

 

but as soon as a male collector either gay or straight like a curvy figure he is label a a pervert who like to sexualize women instead of just liking  the character. 

Edited July 21, 2020 by MrFjmg03

  On 7/21/2020 at 6:24 PM, MrFjmg03 said:

 

 

Why is is that everytime a male collector likes a figure with big bust is label a sale a perv that like to sexualize the female figure. I love the DDdy body, and I love dolls with big bust. Yes I am a male, but I'm a gay male. I have never seen a women in a sexual or desirable manner. 

I just like how the doll shape look. I have seen plantly of female doll collector collect male dolls with tons of muscles and nobody ever accuse them of sexualizing males.

 

but as soon as a male collector either gay or straight like a curvy figure he is label a a pervert who like to sexualize women instead of just licking the character. 

I'm not attacking you or anyone for their preference. That does not mean, however, that we can't examine why we have those preferences. 

It's great that you bring up that you're a gay man as well; it's proof that oversexualization of the female form is normalized to where someone who does not even view women in a sexual way prefers a sexualized depiction. Again, this is not an attack, and I totally get how that doesn't feel genuine of me to say in this sort of instance but I promise it's not me vilifying you or something. My gay uncle has the same viewpoint as you.

Contrastingly, I myself am a woman who is attracted to women, among other genders.

Moreover, I don't think this sort of critique's endgoal should be to shove the "other" from my POV into the "bad horny jail". That just ain't what it's about.

 

  On 7/21/2020 at 6:12 PM, sweets said:

I do wish the bust was more natural, though. It looks a little comical because of how spherical it is, even in a top with a normal neckline. I agree it kinda looks like bad implants. Smartdoll has some busts that look like slightly better representations of cleavage when clothed. 

I just wish everyone (not just you) would stop using natural to describe non-spherical breasts. My bust looks like that when I am wearing a bra in real life, and I do not have implants, I am all natural. Large busts run in my family.

I think most people are only thinking the DDdy bust looks weird because it is shaped as though a bra is being worn without a bra on, which in real life only happens with implants. But I don't really see this as a problem, because if you gave the sculpt a more non-bra droop, it would look bad in clothing, and be obvious that she's not wearing a bra.

Although I like the way that the current Smart Doll push up style busts look in clothing, they no longer carry a size as large as a DDdy bust. Their large bust is bigger than Volks' L bust, but not as big as a DDdy. 

 

  On 7/21/2020 at 5:31 PM, Kotone said:

We exist in a world where sexuality bombards us to sell us things at every opportunity, and perhaps if you are a man or were socialized male that is not something evident to you at all. Hell, there are plenty of women who would see this as needlessly preachy too. That's how my experience has been though.

I fully agree that women are always sexualized in some way in media, as are men. I also agree that the DDdy was originally designed based on this sexualized anime girl bomb shell trope. However, I think the only way to subvert this trope is to buy the body if you like it, with the intention to dress your girl however you feel comfortable, even if this means putting conservative rather than sexy outfits on her. I tend to only wear lower cut tops very rarely, because my cleavage draws too much attention otherwise, and makes me self conscious. This is due to the stupid leftover puritanical belief in the US that boobs (the things that feed babies) always equal sex, which is dumb. While I totally understand the reaction that a DDdy's bust looks too sexualized for some people, I wish this didn't have to be where people's minds automatically go. Since you can't change your bust size in real life (without inherently risky surgery) you just have to deal with deciding how you are comfortable dressing based on how much attention you're comfortable with.

Everyone here KNOWS I like the big breasts.  😄  

 

While I agree that nude, the normal and Shapely DDdy busts do look odd and gravity defying, with a low cut or tight shirt or dress top, they look very normal as @Jezrah has stated.  If you want your DDdy girls breasts to be big but not look devoid of gravity I suggest you get some silicone ones for her.  Those react similarly to real ones as they droop and will sag with no clothing on.  And they move in a bra like real ones so you have to "swoop and tuck" them into tight clothing or lingerie.  😉  Maybe I need to do a comparison post on different silicone boob sizes and types so people can see what they look like under clothing and free of hinderance.  LOL

 

As for the labeling of Yoko's chest as "natural", that's Volks fault.  On her release, that's the name they used to describe her bust because it was so different from the regular DDdy issues.  She was also the first DD to have no nips and that was due to the licensors Gainax.  In the anime, Yoko was only 15 in the time period she wore that bikini setup so they were wanting to "protect" her image.... or so the story goes that I was told.

 

 

 

Billy

 

PS.  Titsune ( Inari ) says hello.  😄

 

 

  On 7/21/2020 at 11:24 PM, baldylox said:

Everyone here KNOWS I like the big breasts.  

I am shocked beyond words at this revelation.

I dont think there's anything particularly wrong with DDDy busts, and it works out great for my DDDy girl since it gives her that ideal Victorian hourglass figure. . . but I would not be mad to see other bust variations made official for DDDy.

One, I think a lot of people have said for a long time they'd love to see Yoko's exclusive "natural" bust made standard. It's still a big set of bazoongas but in more of a relaxed sports bra shape instead of the normal amd shapley busts' invisible pushup bra vibe.

And two, there are also plenty of pear shaped girls out there with smaller breasts but a voluptuous hips. In fact, that shape has been rather popular in resin doll spheres the past couple of years, and just offering an M size bust for DDDy would be a super easy way for Volks to get on that bandwagon.

In the meantime, there's a few tutorials on this very forum on how to mod DD busts to fit DDDy, and it's not a particularly complicated mod, either. It'd just be a couple of extra steps to get your dream girl, but still totally possible!

Not to derail the conversation but, what happens if you put DDdy thighs on a DD? Is that possible with the hip sockets?

  On 7/25/2020 at 1:37 AM, sunlightandtea said:

Not to derail the conversation but, what happens if you put DDdy thighs on a DD? Is that possible with the hip sockets?

I actually asked this very question here.

Unfortunately, it looks terrible. =(

  On 7/16/2020 at 12:24 AM, Jezrah said:

I wasn't offended per se, and like I said, I wasn't trying to single you out. More and more lately, there have been many negative sentiments expressed regarding the size and shape of the dynamite bust. This just makes me a bit defensive, because as someone with a comparable bust in real life, I feel sad that this bust is being disparaged. Although it may be the case that the bust was originally created to be overtly sexy, like @Deyja said, you can't help your bust size. Not all dynamite girls need be overtly sexy all the time. My first girl is a DDdy, and her personality is that she's a bit self conscious and tends to dress conservatively. I chose the body as my first when making a custom because I identified with it, and because I liked that it's easier to hide the torso seam when using a bikini or something. I don't think there's a need to make the dynamite bust smaller by default,  because this would probably run the risk of just losing the larger option entirely, which I personally would not be happy about. There are already smaller busts available from the DD body, though they do have to be modded.

Anyway, like I said,  I'm not really offended or even angry. I just got defensive because I identify with the dynamite body and many people keep saying negative things about the bust, which I don't really find necessary. If you don't like it, you're free to change it.

PS Sorry I got wordy again. I answer emails for a living, and I write formally and in detail by default. This is me writing informally, because I'm using contractions. For work, those are not allowed (which makes people think a robot is replying rather than a person 😋).

Man do I identify with this! I also am naturally very busty myself. However, while my first girl was a dynamite as well for the same reason as you said, I do wish they would at least shape the dynamite bust to be more natural looking! Like, maybe more teardrop shaped instead of balloon shaped haha! 

  On 7/25/2020 at 2:10 PM, evilbluepoptart said:

Man do I identify with this! I also am naturally very busty myself. However, while my first girl was a dynamite as well for the same reason as you said, I do wish they would at least shape the dynamite bust to be more natural looking! Like, maybe more teardrop shaped instead of balloon shaped haha! 

This is interesting to me, because I seem to be one of very few people who doesn't prefer teardrop shaped breasts on the dynamite. I don't necessarily think that the teardrop shape is actually more natural, but it is definitely what's currently in style as more ideal, because I have seen cosmetic surgery shows where they make that shape on purpose. I think it looks nice on smaller busts. I think the reason I prefer the pushed up breasts on the larger bust is because I feel that my bra is not working properly if they aren't picked all the way up off my rib cage. This is probably because I look slimmer if you can see my rib cage, and overall more frumpy if you can't. I wouldn't be against adding dynamite bust options for those that want them, as long as they didn't take away the current options, because I'd probably still use the existing busts myself.

The main thing this thread has taught me is that my bras provide insufficient support, lol.

I think it's worth noting that the DD body is also pretty stylized, just in a different way; Rin has noticeably longer legs and a narrower waist than my (relatively) more realistic resin girl.  The goal of the DD line in general is to represent anime characters, not real people, and the proportions reflect that.