Dollfie Dream Boy

I may be using a proxy service to get myself a Dollfie Dream boy through the Dream Choice, The character im thinking about using for this doll is Ciel Phantomhive from Black Butler. I was just wondering what head sculpt would look best for him? Also any websites that sell victorian outfits for dolls?

  On 3/20/2021 at 1:38 AM, PrinceWolfe said:

Also any websites that sell victorian outfits for dolls?

Closest I can think of is Dollheart. They make boys stuff with period themes and frequently do Victorian themed stuff. I’m only really familiar with their girl outfits, but they do a lot of Gothic Lolita, Sweet Lolita, and Steampunk stuff, so it’s more Victorian themed as opposed to true Victorian. I can vouch for their quality. 

I don’t know if SD13 boy is a fit for DDB, but SD fits are often what is available. 

Freedom Teller is another doll maker with a lot of boys outfits, but I think for the most part it’s modern suits. 

Nine9Style makes a small number of items for boys, but mostly casual outfits and school uniform type stuff. I’m mentioning them because their clothing is nice, and if you’re getting a boy he’ll probably look good in it. 

Lastly, check through Volks Designer Collection outfits to see if they have made anything in the past. They often have boy stuff in stock long after it was released, and they seem to love doing period outfits. I wish they would go on a roaring 20s kick so I could dress Makoto Kikuchi and Sailor Moon up as flappers. 

What size body were you thinking of? I would typically think of Ciel as more of a DDP size, but Volks hasn't made a boy version of that body yet. If you're going to make a bigger version of Ciel then it might affect the choice of head for him.

Regarding clothing, keep in mind that both the DD Boy body and the DDS Boy body are quite a bit skinnier than an AD 13. They can wear SD 13 clothes if you're ok with a cute baggy look, but if you want something fitted it will probably be too big. The bodies are definitely cute bit can be challenging to cloth nicely if you're picky about fit.

  On 3/20/2021 at 2:48 AM, BeyondTime said:

Closest I can think of is Dollheart. They make boys stuff with period themes and frequently do Victorian themed stuff. I’m only really familiar with their girl outfits, but they do a lot of Gothic Lolita, Sweet Lolita, and Steampunk stuff, so it’s more Victorian themed as opposed to true Victorian. I can vouch for their quality. 

I don’t know if SD13 boy is a fit for DDB, but SD fits are often what is available. 

Freedom Teller is another doll maker with a lot of boys outfits, but I think for the most part it’s modern suits. 

Nine9Style makes a small number of items for boys, but mostly casual outfits and school uniform type stuff. I’m mentioning them because their clothing is nice, and if you’re getting a boy he’ll probably look good in it. 

Lastly, check through Volks Designer Collection outfits to see if they have made anything in the past. They often have boy stuff in stock long after it was released, and they seem to love doing period outfits. I wish they would go on a roaring 20s kick so I could dress Makoto Kikuchi and Sailor Moon up as flappers. 

Thank you so much! I probably would get some casual outfits just to have something that's not to over the top, I mean if Ciel lived in this day in age he would probably wear some cute casual stuff. I do like nine style, I haven't bought anything from them before but their clothing is always very cute. I know people have used the female bodies and just had the SS bust but If i have the chance to get a boy i'd rather go that route.

  On 3/20/2021 at 5:07 AM, Jezrah said:

What size body were you thinking of? I would typically think of Ciel as more of a DDP size, but Volks hasn't made a boy version of that body yet. If you're going to make a bigger version of Ciel then it might affect the choice of head for him.

Regarding clothing, keep in mind that both the DD Boy body and the DDS Boy body are quite a bit skinnier than an AD 13. They can wear SD 13 clothes if you're ok with a cute baggy look, but if you want something fitted it will probably be too big. The bodies are definitely cute bit can be challenging to cloth nicely if you're picky about fit.

I was thinking either the Dollfie Dream Sister boy body, An MDD body, or I guess I could use DDP since they have a small chest but i feel like it would still be noticeable that the doll had a chest

I’m not sure if they’ve been discontinued or are just temporarily out of stock, but I wanted to suggest that if you were able to find one, an obitsu 45 or 50cm body could be an option, especially since the 50cm is closer to DDP size.

If you aren’t able to find the whole obitsu body but find some parts for it, this post has some great info on how to put Obitsu’s 1/4 male torso parts on an MDD body:

 

  On 3/20/2021 at 5:59 AM, PrinceWolfe said:

I was thinking either the Dollfie Dream Sister boy body, An MDD body, or I guess I could use DDP since they have a small chest but i feel like it would still be noticeable that the doll had a chest

Yes, that would be the next question then. If you want to do DDP size or MDD size, since they would be girl bodies anyway, is there a head you like that would require the Dream Choice system? Otherwise it might not be necessary to pay a proxy. But if you really want a DDS boy body, you could probably do a scaled up/slightly older version of Ciel.

  On 3/20/2021 at 5:07 AM, Jezrah said:

Regarding clothing, keep in mind that both the DD Boy body and the DDS Boy body are quite a bit skinnier than an AD 13. They can wear SD 13 clothes if you're ok with a cute baggy look, but if you want something fitted it will probably be too big.

Therein lies the challenge then. I haven’t seen any of the usual clothing markers making DDB stuff. 

DDP is just as problematic for outfits IMO. 

I think DDSB would work for this character. Here are some photos of Len Kagamine who is a DDSB along with some commentary on clothing fits. https://www.jadepixeldoll.com/kagamine-len-arrival/ 

I think it’s pretty close to you character, and Volks does make stuff for DDB. The caveat is their Designer Collection is a Super Dollfie clothing line and boy outfits are usually in MSDB, SDGrB, and SD17. SDGrB & SD17 will be way too big for DDSB, and MSDB is probably too small. They occasionally make them in SD size, which does list as also fitting DDSB: https://volksusastore.com/webstores/dollfie/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=12213

 

  On 3/20/2021 at 7:26 PM, Jezrah said:

Yes, that would be the next question then. If you want to do DDP size or MDD size, since they would be girl bodies anyway, is there a head you like that would require the Dream Choice system? Otherwise it might not be necessary to pay a proxy. But if you really want a DDS boy body, you could probably do a scaled up/slightly older version of Ciel.

I was thinking of using an MSD sized doll. The only issue with an MDD is trying to find Ciel's contract seal eyes, i've found some for sale for like 12 to 14mm sizes. I also like two dolls from the makers 2D Doll, they have an anime style but their bodies are actually jointed like a regular BJD.

  On 3/21/2021 at 5:23 AM, BeyondTime said:

Therein lies the challenge then. I haven’t seen any of the usual clothing markers making DDB stuff. 

DDP is just as problematic for outfits IMO. 

I think DDSB would work for this character. Here are some photos of Len Kagamine who is a DDSB along with some commentary on clothing fits. https://www.jadepixeldoll.com/kagamine-len-arrival/ 

I think it’s pretty close to you character, and Volks does make stuff for DDB. The caveat is their Designer Collection is a Super Dollfie clothing line and boy outfits are usually in MSDB, SDGrB, and SD17. SDGrB & SD17 will be way too big for DDSB, and MSDB is probably too small. They occasionally make them in SD size, which does list as also fitting DDSB: https://volksusastore.com/webstores/dollfie/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=12213

 

I do like the younger and cute look when it comes to boy dolls unless I have a certain character in mind that needs a bigger sized doll, like my Sebastian that I will also be getting in the future after I have my Ciel. The only thing is If i get like a Lutz SD65 sized doll or a SD16 sized doll from another company is how will a regular BJD look when paired with a DDSB

  On 3/22/2021 at 4:14 AM, PrinceWolfe said:

SD16 sized doll from another company is how will a regular BJD look when paired with a DDSB

SD16 is considerably larger in scale than DD, and the SD16 & 17 sized boys are going to look even bigger. In the case of Ciel, I think the size difference would emphasis the petite nature of the character, but resins next to vinyl can be kind of meh. I would say SD's and Vinyl's just look like a different thing when put next to each other. My SDGr Belldandy doesn't look too out of place compared to my DD, but Bell is an anime themed bjd and that helps.

 

  On 3/22/2021 at 4:05 AM, PrinceWolfe said:

I was thinking of using an MSD sized doll.

The problem with MSD & MDD is their proportions are more like a toddler or pre-adolescent child, and your character is more like a very slim older teen.

Have you seen DD in person? It might help if you went to a doll meet and saw these dolls next to each other.

  On 3/20/2021 at 7:10 PM, Damiensdolls said:

Update: the obitsu 50cm male body is currently in stock at Parabox!

https://paraboxshop.jp/goods_en_jpy_3999.html
 

I think it would be a great option if you’re looking for a size in between MDD and DD, like DDP. But if you’re really looking forward to the Dream Choice experience, I understand that too so in that case feel free to go for the DDBS! ^u^