Pit Posted July 8, 2021 The title says everything. I'm planning on getting both DDdy lower torso and chest of one of this two brands as I heard both have a very good quality. First I was thinking peach pai was my best option because its lower price, but then I noticed there are some shape differences between both that made me doubt. I tried looking for some comparison photos but no success. All i found were photos of one, or the other that barely helped. So, do you, beautiful, wise and all mighty dollfie community, have any comparison images so I can make my decision? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gallye Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) This thread over in the Photos section might be a good start: www.dolldreaming.com/topic/19067-rajikaru-peach-paipeach-pai-plus-and-the-wersaze-mkiii-smd-bust-first-impressionsnsfw/ You'll have to copy and paste, as the original link was NSFW. It's not about the DDDy busts/hips in particular, but it's a start! Edited July 8, 2021 by Gallye removed NSFW images Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meowjima Posted July 8, 2021 PErsonally, I prefer the peach pai to wersaze. The silicone feels like a higher quality. And is designed so that you really don't need to apply a chest piece, insrts, and a neck adapter to fit it on your doll. But this may be just an issue with SmD and the bust was made to accomidate the extra support it might need. I received the peach pai busts first, and I really think it set standards too high. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pit Posted July 8, 2021 22 minutes ago, Gallye said: This thread over in the Photos section might be a good start: www.dolldreaming.com/topic/19067-rajikaru-peach-paipeach-pai-plus-and-the-wersaze-mkiii-smd-bust-first-impressionsnsfw/ You'll have to copy and paste, as the original link was NSFW. It's not about the DDDy busts/hips in particular, but it's a start! Thanks! I read before that post @Meowjima made and it helps a lot with the bust choice. Yet, hips/lower torso are the other issue still remains (as you said). Hopefully someone could share her/his experience and comparison images. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pit Posted July 8, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, Meowjima said: PErsonally, I prefer the peach pai to wersaze. The silicone feels like a higher quality. And is designed so that you really don't need to apply a chest piece, insrts, and a neck adapter to fit it on your doll. But this may be just an issue with SmD and the bust was made to accomidate the extra support it might need. I received the peach pai busts first, and I really think it set standards too high. Yeah, in fact I got a wersaze bust already months ago I'm planning to sell because unfortunately was not what I was expecting in shape and size. Putting that aside, the quality is good so no complaints there. BUT, also, as you said, the accesories you need to adapt the piece on your doll is something important, since it could be a problem for some people. About the SmD peach pai you have, I'm not sure if Dollfie dream works the same. If so, It would be better than wersaze bust for me so I'd go definitely with peach pai bust. Better price, just one piece to assemble and, based on your opinions, better quality, so triple win there. So, along with a chest DDdy comparison of these brands, hips/lower torso comparisons persists too 😅. Someone pls, hear my voice and teach us, novices, the wonders of your knowledge on this topic! Edited July 9, 2021 by Pit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Testament Posted July 8, 2021 This is a mission for @baldylox... I suppose 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meowjima Posted July 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Pit said: Yeah, in fact I got a wersaze bust already months ago I'm planning to sell because unfortunately was not what I was expecting in shape and size. Putting that aside, the quality is good so no complaints there. BUT, also, as you said, the accesories you need to adapt the piece on your doll is something important, since it could be a problem for some people. About the SmD peach pai you have, I'm not sure if Dollfie dream works the same. If so, It would be better than wersaze bust for me so I'd go definitely with peach pai bust. Better price, just one piece to assemble and, based on your opinions, better quality, so triple win there. So, along with a chest DDdy comparison of this brands, hips/lower torso comparisons persists too 😅. Someone pls, hear my voice and teach us, novices, the wonders of your knowledge on this topic! oh no, the only big difference between the two is wersaze does SmD busts, but rajikaru doesn't. But I guess if I really wanted to, I could try modding one to fit. But neither of mine color match. And yes, this is really a case for baldylox and one other person I know of who I don't think is on the forum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pit Posted July 9, 2021 2 hours ago, Meowjima said: oh no, the only big difference between the two is wersaze does SmD busts, but rajikaru doesn't. But I guess if I really wanted to, I could try modding one to fit. But neither of mine color match. I didn't explain myself well. Sorry about that. What I tried to say is I hope DDdy peach pai bust doesn't need any accesory; similar to your SmD bust. 2 hours ago, Meowjima said: And yes, this is really a case for baldylox and one other person I know of who I don't think is on the forum. 3 hours ago, Testament said: This is a mission for @baldylox... I suppose I was thinking the same as you both. He's the man in these cases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Meowjima Posted July 9, 2021 4 hours ago, Pit said: I didn't explain myself well. Sorry about that. What I tried to say is I hope DDdy peach pai bust doesn't need any accesory; similar to your SmD bust. They don't! I think the silicone rajikaru uses is a little thicker. I have a DD and DDDu pair of the busts and the only downside is the necks can feel a little more wobbly, specially on the DDDy body. But it's really not a big deal unless yo plan to aggressively shake your doll. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldylox Posted July 9, 2021 If you say his name 3 times while staring at silicone doll boobies he will appear! 😉 I do indeed have both the Wersaze and the Peach Pai lower torsos and there are quite a few differences in them. I'll take pics of both tomorrow and share them here along with info on them. I'll also have to tag this thread as NSFW because the detailing on these two pieces are definitely NSFW. 😄 Billy 1 1 I gave up counting the girls I own, they keep multiplying and won't stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldylox Posted July 10, 2021 Ok so here we go! As I stated earlier, the following pics are completely NSFW so if detailed dolly privates aren't your thing then avert your eyes now or click out of this thread because we're going to be seeing some REAL detailed work here. 😉 Spacing for the pics. Okay here we go. As noted, there are two makers of these lower silicone body parts, Raji ( Peach Pai or here known as the Peach Hip ) and Wersaze. In all the following pics the Raji piece will be on the right and the Wersaze on the left. These come with an instruction sheet in Japanese and that's about it. Below are the pieces side by side. 20210502_134642 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr As you can see, the Wersaze piece is wider in the butt and the hips than the Raji piece. I'm going to refer to these as WP and RP from here on. The WP is also a tad taller than the RP and the connecting pin is white instead of NS colored. From the side you can see the thickness differences easily. 20210502_134749 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr BOOTAY! 😉 Here you can see the difference of the butts. The WP is way thiccer and plumper. Not to say the RP isn't, that's the same as the regular Volks DDdy butt. 20210502_134822 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr And now for the up close and personal pics. This is the detailing of the WP. 20210502_134855 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr And this is the RP. 20210502_134929 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr I guess if you are picky about your vajayjay details then this might help you a lot. 😄 As you can see, both are very detailed and well made. Here you can see how they look with the legs closed. I don't want to offend anyone with descriptive words so I'll just say that the RP looks less detailed closed than the WP one does. 20210502_135006 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr And here are the legs. This is where the parts you have to add on go. You need to take the shins off your doll and then slide them over the lower leg parts. Then you put the feet assemblies into the bottom of the leg. Again, WP on left and RP on right. 20210502_135043 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr Both have metal bits in them for sturdiness but I have found both also need to be tightened often to keep them from getting loose. Also, the parts on the WP are partially carbon fiber. Now your girl can be sexy, fast and furious! 😛 20210502_135135 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr And here's a few shots of one on a doll so you can see how it looks. This is Kanna, she's a SWS girl and is using the WP in SWS along with a Wersaze DDdy XL bust. DSC_0719 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr No seamlines on the hips! DSC_0720 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr DSC_0722 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr As you can see these are great for swimsuit or lingerie pics. DSC_0723 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr This is Manami on her NS setup. But she is using a Peach Pai Plus for the DDdy girls. DSC_0162 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr Dem hip bones..... 😉 DSC_0163 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr DSC_0164 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr While not lower silicone parts, I decided to play around with this bust I've had for a while. It fits a DDS frame as well as Azones, Obitsu and Angel Philia. It is HUGE. And heavy. 20210502_135727 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr You want huge boobs on your doll? NO PROBLEM. 20210502_135831 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr Poor thing needs a serious bra. LOL 20210502_135930 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr Even my cat is worried about her back. PLZ GIV TO DAT A BRA. 20210502_140129 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr So there we go, a guide to the silicone lower torsos! Hopefully that helps you out and let's you see what they are and how they differ. Billy 2 3 1 I gave up counting the girls I own, they keep multiplying and won't stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pit Posted July 10, 2021 Tysm @baldylox! The aesthetic issue is solved now, and posability seems to be practically the same for both. Now, looking at the inner frame, is there any quality difference? Is one more resistant than the other? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Courtmom Posted July 11, 2021 @baldylox - Oh wow! I thought those lower torso bits stopped being made years ago! I haven't seen them in forever! Your comparison pictures are great! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldylox Posted July 11, 2021 3 hours ago, Pit said: Tysm @baldylox! The aesthetic issue is solved now, and posability seems to be practically the same for both. Now, looking at the inner frame, is there any quality difference? Is one more resistant than the other? I really haven't seen any major differences in posing or movement so far. I can't say either is better in this department. I will say the Wersaze had one of the lower leg pins come out of the socket so I had to use some cement glue to put it back in. No biggie tho. 31 minutes ago, Courtmom said: @baldylox - Oh wow! I thought those lower torso bits stopped being made years ago! I haven't seen them in forever! Your comparison pictures are great! Well, it's not easy to get these at all so I can see why you'd think so. Raji hasn't done overseas orders often but he recently opened up for the busts. He says he will eventually do the torsos too but hasn't given a timeframe. Wersaze was a preorder that took almost a year and a half to get and from what I hear he's been quite unreliable lately on orders. SO I have no idea how to get those unless you know someone going to shows in Japan or Hong Kong. And thank you! I appreciate it. Billy I gave up counting the girls I own, they keep multiplying and won't stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Courtmom Posted July 11, 2021 4 minutes ago, baldylox said: Well, it's not easy to get these at all so I can see why you'd think so. Raji hasn't done overseas orders often but he recently opened up for the busts. He says he will eventually do the torsos too but hasn't given a timeframe. Wersaze was a preorder that took almost a year and a half to get and from what I hear he's been quite unreliable lately on orders. SO I have no idea how to get those unless you know someone going to shows in Japan or Hong Kong. I actually got curious and popped open Wersaze's page on "too mini" and did you know they made soft parts in MDD size for BOYS? Tiny pecker and all! So wild! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldylox Posted July 11, 2021 3 minutes ago, Courtmom said: I actually got curious and popped open Wersaze's page on "too mini" and did you know they made soft parts in MDD size for BOYS? Tiny pecker and all! So wild! Say WHAT? I knew there were some MDD silicone busts as well as a small bust for the DD girls but I had no idea there were boy parts! That's wild for sure! Billy I gave up counting the girls I own, they keep multiplying and won't stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pit Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, baldylox said: Say WHAT? I knew there were some MDD silicone busts as well as a small bust for the DD girls but I had no idea there were boy parts! That's wild for sure! Billy Yeah, thats exactly the website I go to see the products wersaze has to offer. There are also silicone feet and even hands but I'm not sure if those are articulated or if those body parts were recently released. AND DAMN, they are quite expensive too. Edited July 11, 2021 by Pit Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldylox Posted July 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Pit said: Yeah, thats exactly the website I go to see the products wersaze has to offer. There are also silicone feet and even hands but I'm not sure if those are articulated or if those body parts were recently released. AND DAMN, they are quite expensive too. I actually have a pair of the silicone hands ( I got them a few years ago ) and they have a wire frame inside to make them posable. The skin tone is a perfect match for the NS bodies and they hands pose really well. But being wire frames, they *will* eventually wear and break so I don't use them on my girls very often. I haven't seen the feet before but I know they were made. I don't really see the need tho? Maybe to squish into super tight shoes? 😄 Billy I gave up counting the girls I own, they keep multiplying and won't stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pit Posted July 11, 2021 (edited) 2 hours ago, baldylox said: Maybe to squish into super tight shoes? 😄 I didn't think about it but it could work indeed. Now that i remember, SmD have a nice footwear line I'd like to try on my DD queens. Unfortunately SmD have smaller feet so it's too risky and could damage the shoes. Maybe with these silicone feet, problem could be solved. Edited July 11, 2021 by Pit 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HK47 Posted July 12, 2021 On 7/10/2021 at 12:52 PM, baldylox said: Ok so here we go! As I stated earlier, the following pics are completely NSFW so if detailed dolly privates aren't your thing then avert your eyes now or click out of this thread because we're going to be seeing some REAL detailed work here. 😉 Spacing for the pics. Okay here we go. As noted, there are two makers of these lower silicone body parts, Raji ( Peach Pai or here known as the Peach Hip ) and Wersaze. In all the following pics the Raji piece will be on the right and the Wersaze on the left. These come with an instruction sheet in Japanese and that's about it. Below are the pieces side by side. 20210502_134642 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr As you can see, the Wersaze piece is wider in the butt and the hips than the Raji piece. I'm going to refer to these as WP and RP from here on. The WP is also a tad taller than the RP and the connecting pin is white instead of NS colored. From the side you can see the thickness differences easily. 20210502_134749 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr BOOTAY! 😉 Here you can see the difference of the butts. The WP is way thiccer and plumper. Not to say the RP isn't, that's the same as the regular Volks DDdy butt. 20210502_134822 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr And now for the up close and personal pics. This is the detailing of the WP. 20210502_134855 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr And this is the RP. 20210502_134929 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr I guess if you are picky about your vajayjay details then this might help you a lot. 😄 As you can see, both are very detailed and well made. Here you can see how they look with the legs closed. I don't want to offend anyone with descriptive words so I'll just say that the RP looks less detailed closed than the WP one does. 20210502_135006 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr And here are the legs. This is where the parts you have to add on go. You need to take the shins off your doll and then slide them over the lower leg parts. Then you put the feet assemblies into the bottom of the leg. Again, WP on left and RP on right. 20210502_135043 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr Both have metal bits in them for sturdiness but I have found both also need to be tightened often to keep them from getting loose. Also, the parts on the WP are partially carbon fiber. Now your girl can be sexy, fast and furious! 😛 20210502_135135 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr And here's a few shots of one on a doll so you can see how it looks. This is Kanna, she's a SWS girl and is using the WP in SWS along with a Wersaze DDdy XL bust. DSC_0719 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr No seamlines on the hips! DSC_0720 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr DSC_0722 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr As you can see these are great for swimsuit or lingerie pics. DSC_0723 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr This is Manami on her NS setup. But she is using a Peach Pai Plus for the DDdy girls. DSC_0162 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr Dem hip bones..... 😉 DSC_0163 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr DSC_0164 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr While not lower silicone parts, I decided to play around with this bust I've had for a while. It fits a DDS frame as well as Azones, Obitsu and Angel Philia. It is HUGE. And heavy. 20210502_135727 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr You want huge boobs on your doll? NO PROBLEM. 20210502_135831 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr Poor thing needs a serious bra. LOL 20210502_135930 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr Even my cat is worried about her back. PLZ GIV TO DAT A BRA. 20210502_140129 by Billy Bennett, on Flickr So there we go, a guide to the silicone lower torsos! Hopefully that helps you out and let's you see what they are and how they differ. Billy I have never seen them this big. Where did you fine it baldylox? Makes me wonder how big do they come? From what i have seen on the boards, I should look into mandrake. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
baldylox Posted July 12, 2021 17 hours ago, HK47 said: I have never seen them this big. Where did you fine it baldylox? Makes me wonder how big do they come? From what i have seen on the boards, I should look into mandrake. These are often found at doll shows in HK as well as Japan. You can also get them on YJA and Mandarake altho I see them on YJA way more often. I am unaware of the brand name but they seem to be pretty popular. They make them for dolls sized 40cm up to 60cm. I got these secondhand from a friend. They wound up being too big for what I was wanting so I have them sitting on the shelf for now. They make them MUCH bigger than this too. I've seen them where one breast is bigger than a dolls head. LOL That's just too big for me. 😄 Billy I gave up counting the girls I own, they keep multiplying and won't stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Testament Posted July 13, 2021 (edited) For completely unrelated reasons, just the other day I was browsing a Obitsu related thread on DoA and the omniscent @K-2 mentioned this silicone breast brand for 50 and 60cm dolls. Something like Mammon or Mammography. (EDIT: Mammodoll, it's Mammodoll) I've visited their very basic site (<_< for... for reasons...) and... I was ALMOST scared XD The God Milk size is like human tits on a 60cm doll. Edited July 13, 2021 by Testament 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tira Posted July 19, 2021 On 7/13/2021 at 10:40 AM, Testament said: For completely unrelated reasons, just the other day I was browsing a Obitsu related thread on DoA and the omniscent @K-2 mentioned this silicone breast brand for 50 and 60cm dolls. Something like Mammon or Mammography. (EDIT: Mammodoll, it's Mammodoll) I've visited their very basic site (<_< for... for reasons...) and... I was ALMOST scared XD The God Milk size is like human tits on a 60cm doll. You know, I've thought about how to make a custom DD of Passionlip from Fate/Extra CCC and FGO, since she's one of my boyfriend's favorite Servants. I figured I'd have to compromise on the... accuracy of her proportions, but apparently they make busts that dwarf her assets. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HK47 Posted July 19, 2021 Hmmm. It does open the doors things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HK47 Posted April 6, 2023 Here are a few BUST that i got. I know I'm dragging this old post out. I hope i post this right I'll try to get around and post a girl with different bust. There are a few other bust bust i haven't seen them. Having a problem with proxy service, need to fine another one. I don't think the sellers like proxys. Spoiler Spoiler Spoiler 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites