AndreZolwe Posted January 5, 2023 Could someone show me what the *real* difference between a DD lower torso and a DDS lower torso is? Volks' measurements say they have the same waist while DD has a hip of 225mm and DDS is 235mm, but that's never looked right to me- DDS lower torsos have almost always look slimmer and/or longer than DD ones. For context: SO wants to shorten one of their girls into a DDS, but since they make their dolls' clothing themselves (and doesn't want to tailor their patterns to a different size if they don't have to), they're unsure about what torso to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 9:22 PM, AndreZolwe said: Could someone show me what the *real* difference between a DD lower torso and a DDS lower torso is? Volks' measurements say they have the same waist while DD has a hip of 225mm and DDS is 235mm, but that's never looked right to me- DDS lower torsos have almost always look slimmer and/or longer than DD ones. For context: SO wants to shorten one of their girls into a DDS, but since they make their dolls' clothing themselves (and doesn't want to tailor their patterns to a different size if they don't have to), they're unsure about what torso to get. While I'm sure Volks measurements are correct, there isn't really much width difference based on measurements I took with a dial caliper. Where the two torsos really differ is in the roundness of the butt (DDS has a nice round & cute butt), and the roundness of hips (DD has rounder hips that are probably meant to be more mature looking.) If you put a DDS torso on a DD you will get a doll with a slimmer looking hip profile, and a cuter butt. The overall effect looks fine, but different from a dd. Here is Iori on a DD body with DDS lower torso Iori - Bunny Style-4090-Edit.jpg by Cult of Athena, on Flickr Slightly better view of the body. Iori - Bikini - DD-4097-Edit.jpg by Cult of Athena, on Flickr Same body Iori was on, but Mio is wearing a DD school uniform with a skirt made for DDP / MDD. Mio Akiyama - School Girl by Cult of Athena, on Flickr There is no height difference when comparing Mio and Sinon (DD with DD Lower Torso.) 1 The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/5/2023 at 9:22 PM, AndreZolwe said: Could someone show me what the *real* difference between a DD lower torso and a DDS lower torso is? One more photo. This shows Utena DD with the regular DD lower torso, and Jeanne DD with a DDS lower torso side by side. Jeanne - DDS Lower Torso-4679-Edit.jpg by Cult of Athena, on Flickr You can see how the DDS hip just isn't as round. 2 The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndreZolwe Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 12:53 AM, BeyondTime said: One more photo. This shows Utena DD with the regular DD lower torso, and Jeanne DD with a DDS lower torso side by side. Jeanne - DDS Lower Torso-4679-Edit.jpg by Cult of Athena, on Flickr You can see how the DDS hip just isn't as round. Ty for the explanation and pictures! What we're getting from this is that the roundness from a DD hip moves from the hip to the butt in a DDS, so to speak, which also makes a DDS look slimmer (at least from the front) because the waist isn't as pronounced. Does this sound correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 2:28 AM, AndreZolwe said: because the waist isn't as pronounced. I would say it's the hips aren't as pronounced, but you have the gist of it. The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
AndreZolwe Posted January 6, 2023 On 1/6/2023 at 2:30 AM, BeyondTime said: I would say it's the hips aren't as pronounced, but you have the gist of it. Yes, that's what I meant. LOL Got the two confused for a moment there. 😆 Would love to see more pics if anyone else can compare them! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeyondTime Posted January 6, 2023 Here is what I mean by rounder butt. DD is on the left and DDS on the right. The scale is not quite the same, so ignore overall size. Here is a comparison of various bodies that I did awhile back. 3 The difference between Dollfie Dreams and Heroin? Heroin is illegal, Dollfie Dreams probably should be. “Empty wallets, full hearts.” That’s probably an apt description for the effects of DD addiction Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigger Posted May 5, 2023 Been thinking of "upscale" one of my characters "Clone Dee" from MDD to DDP, is there a Large chest type compatible with it? Also are the feet close in size? Was going to go with the new Mochi-Ashi MDD but I have so many tall boots that I fear would not fit. If there are any old posts regarding it any remember I would love to peruse if you good folks would send them my way. ty 😸 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chantelle Posted May 5, 2023 @Tigger I’ve seen people swap out the DDP bust with Obitsu 50 busts and the fit seems to be really good. I think a photo was shared on this forum DDP and MDD can also wear the same shoes so you won’t need to get new ones. DDPs also have arms the same length as MDD so they can wear the same long sleeve shirts/dresses. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tigger Posted May 5, 2023 On 5/5/2023 at 8:55 PM, chantelle said: @Tigger I’ve seen people swap out the DDP bust with Obitsu 50 busts and the fit seems to be really good. I think a photo was shared on this forum DDP and MDD can also wear the same shoes so you won’t need to get new ones. DDPs also have arms the same length as MDD so they can wear the same long sleeve shirts/dresses. Ohhhh! Nice nice! :0 I think this will work well for her character moving forward ^-^ ty! All info very much appreciated 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites