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VMF50 & Angel Philia Discussion Thread (nsfw, doll nudity)

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TomoTomo

Yeeh Galhound I'm a Shirow fan aswell I

knew your name was Shirow inspired

Really tho anyone who's been around anime

or manga should know of Masamune Shirow

and Tony Taka (T2) two of the all time

greats IMO. I own all of the "Pieces" books

and waiting to receive W Tails Cat books......

........oh ohh drifting of topic here better get

back to it or Leitan will scold me ,0_0,

 

Leitan the pic of Romina's head is exactly how

she came from RAP!! They made a mistake in

The factory (obitsu??) and sent out Romina

just like that, Tommy had written up a

apology and a solution to the problem, so you've

Done the right thing in cutting the rear of the

sockets....thumbs up!!

 

Thanks also for the heads up on the W Tail Cats

mini episodes I can see the similarities you

mentioned between VMF50's/AP to the Shirow

CG girls. Just so you know and keeping true to

Shirow's work I've seen gifs of a W Tail Cats PC

game of Cyril (main character) really getting

f**ked so that will also get a release....lol

 

Which girl Tsugrurura-chan???

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leitan

@ Tomo... i actually was pretty happy with the default eyes and i don't think they're ugly, i just found that putting in different ones gives a little more "personality", so for the same reason as you.

 

although i found out about VMF dolls from looking at Japanese image boards, it was the pics on http://tgm8332.blog130.fc2.com/ [NSFW] that made me want to buy a VMF (although i also really was persuaded to get one by koba-2011's photos, since his are not so erotic and in your face, which caters to my personal taste a bit more... but i think he uses default eyes... i guess it was 50/50 split telling me to buy VMF!)

 

"Yachi" (the blogger) uses custom eyes in his dolls sometimes and they always look shiny. also i think he may personally know Tommy or have some kind of promotion affiliation, but i'm not sure about that.

 

his Shiho looks really good with these blue eyes- i don't know what color to change my Shiho doll's eyes to yet, though...

 

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btw, i think you are right, since the sockets for the eyes are all uniform size on the inside of the head. they just switched to using the 12mm eyes lately which is probably why all dolls come with putty now, since the 12mm can be knocked out of place.

 

also, thanks for letting me know that was a genuine defect with Romina. i didn't (still don't always) follow Tommy's blog very closely all the time (hence the lazy relating about Angel Resort) so i never knew at the time.

 

you could reverse the syllables in Shiho's name - then she becomes HOSHI - which means "Star". AC/RAP seem to really like using similar names for their dolls so i often get confused (Miria, Marina and Sayaka, Sayuri, Mako, Miki, etc) so what if they released a "Chiho" in future...? hmm....

 

by the way, where did you find such a head for sale?

 

if you ever want to buy eyes with "Butterfly" patterns in them (i don't know if that is what you meant by mentioning them...) then Souldoll.com sells them. i have some pairs for my Dollfie Dreams, they are very pretty, would probably work nicely in VMF!

 

OT: i love Tony Taka as well, but i think i'm the last or second-to-last generation of anime fans that would consider TT and Shirow to be names unanimous with anime/manga. i mean GITS is still very famous but i think a lot of teenagers could not tell you who actually created it if you asked them on the spot. Tony Taka is even more niche, although he has had quite a lot of his illustrations turned into figures.

 

oh yeah, scolding ahoy if that's what you want... bear in mind, i'm not a moderator on this board, i just started this topic and spend a lot of time updating it and talking in it currently.

so even though this thread is marked NSFW, it's a good idea not to be too explicit upfront about anything pornographic (yes, we can talk about it because the dolls always have been somewhat H-rated or market as such)-- but because it's the moderators of DollfieDreams who decide what is or is not acceptable if they see it, you may wish to take it down a peg.

 

that said, my only issue was IDK about the name Cyril, since it's a little weird for me - though Iris is a good alternative and she's the main blond girl in W Tails Cats. i tried to combine their names "Cyrilis" but that just sounds like an STD... so i still don't know about Nao's name, haha.

 

OK, as for Tsugurura-chan, she appears to be actually a variable version of the Angel Resort doll that Galhound posted here - viewtopic.php?f=39&t=3723&start=200#p116372

 

her body parts are C3 bust (like Romina, which i really prefer a lot to G so i might be tempted to replace Shiho's if it were for sale)... and also the torso (believe the type name is C2 - Chiara is the only officially released doll that has this torso yet, but i am sure more will come soon).

i like how it's "twisty" and appears somehow to have belly fat despite VMF waists being so thin.

 

edit: also, it's my mistake, but "Tsugurura" is actually slightly different to the doll on the event poster. she appears to be tan skin Mona (like the poster) but has the C4 boobs instead of C3, but maintain the C2 torso/hips/legs.

 

Tommy blog URL with Tsugurura (NSFW) - http://realartproject.x.fc2.com/item/pg144.html

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TomoTomo

I would seriously consider adopting Tsugurura chan

if she ever becomes available but firstly I'll await

the arrival of Chirara chan so I can get a visual on

that specific torso but to tell you the truth it looks

really nice how she poking her belly out and twisting

A little>_< The hentai boobs really worry me more

and more

 

I got the Shiho head from Yahoo Japan not long after

her release so now I have Shiho and her twin Hoshi (;))

but she has Romina's body, they're still quite busty

Goes to show just what will show up there.

Talking about Romina I gave the brown "love" eyes to

her and IMO accompany her expression quite well with

a curly blond wig, I think any of the tan VMF50/AP girls

look amazing with sparkly blue eyes and blond hair

reminds me of a beach going girl sun, surf and sand

 

With Shiho ATM I've got light blue 12mm eyes for a

more innocent look and light brown/hazel 16mm eye

For a more moe look;);) but this is just me also I'm

just loving them with the light brown/hazel look right

now 0_o

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Galhound

A quick message to announce , that Angel Philia will be release a new doll soon ,her name is Misa , and the pre-order will be the 28/07/213

 

angelphilia-misa_zps76e9e32a.jpg

 

This night I comment the news XDDDD

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baldylox

Wow, that Misa has a very pretty face! Much nicer than some of the older VMF girls. Thanks for sharing that pic of her!

 

 

Billy


I gave up counting the girls I own, they keep multiplying and won't stop.

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leitan

Thanks Galhound ^^

 

Misa has the same face sculpt as the "Bijin na Entry Girls-san" that were on exhibit a few months ago - go check the old pics for comparison!

 

--Actually, there is something interesting about her head. Tommy lists her head as "Type J (入れ目式 type)". the Type J head has only once been used before, for VMF50 ERI.

i don't know if "入れ目式" has a meaning or is the name of a sculptor, but if you look past the make-up and different eyes, you will see the resemblance to Eri.

she may not be exactly the same as Eri (can not confirm), but now that i look at comparisons between the two, it seems clear this is another "Eri variation" head.

 

also remember, the "Head Type" system is a bit confusing because for example, Shiho & Miho are listed as "H" Type head despite distinct differences in the shape of the eye sculpt and face-up between other "H" Types like Kana, Mako and Miko.

So, it's a good idea to maybe think of the Head Type system as a prototype system and never always an exact match even if there are many similarities or even if you think they are identical, we don't know enough to be 100% sure.

 

Here's more information about MISA-chan from Tommy's blog:

 

> She'll be sold in limited quantities at WF S13 (7/28/13, Japan time) so the only other way to obtain her will be to get the pre-order (though you can definitely assume some pre-orders will later appear on YJA as they always do)

 

> For my notes and general info: Head Type J*, she will come with 16mm eyes, her bust will be C2, stomach/butt/hips are type C, normal hands, high heel feet (as predicted), 48cm frame, skin color: W

 

even if you can't get in on the pre-order, it's very unlikely that they won't make a variation doll of her, especially since there's no tan skin girl with the J head - if they are bringing it back in some form, that would be even more exotic.

 

also, as i said above, Misa's J head may or may not be identical to Eri in sculpt, but obviously she has completely different make-up and body blushing.

 

Tommy also said the Angel Resort event was very popular, and the one-off dolls were lotter'ied off now. currently, you can see a mini exhibit of Angel Philia dolls on exhibition in the windows of Mandarake Complex store(s?).

 

Their Wonfes Booth number is [3-07 1] if anyone has a friend in Japan or is attending.

 

oh yes, and TomoTomo, i would love to see any pictures of your girls with different eyes sometime, especially Shiho and Hoshi together! i agree that tan skin goes well with blond or light color hair (the same reason that pale skin looks nice with black hair - contrast - which is why my only W skin VMF, Sayo, usually wears a dark color wig)

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Galhound

I checked the Angel Resort photo´s and I see this beauty , any info about her?

 

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WF2013S-04_Arcadia-DSC_8572 por taitan-no, en Flickr

 

She looks than Kana but with tongue, she is absolutely amazing , I love it ^^

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leitan

@ Galhound, that pic is from their booth at WonFes Summer'13, not Angel Resort (although they may have re used some of the clothes or props).

 

from eyeballing it, yes it's a Kana head (H-type) with tongue, just like Romina/Karura/Marina etc but with different face-up and different tongue/mouth piece.

the guy whose flickr you linked to has his own website btw - http://taitan-no.net/ - he covers many doll show and figure events.

 

the Arcadia booth was right next to the TokyoDoll / PopMate booth - http://taitan-no.net/archives/2013/07/31/0056.php (NSFW) just scroll down the page to see the entry on Arcadia's display. i hoped it would contain information but it seems not, but looks like Tommy wrote a blog entry about it anyway (there are also more pics on Tommy's?):

 

http://ameblo.jp/tommy-ac/

 

he just called her the "tan Entry Girl". i also noticed some other sculpts that appear to be modded versions of existing sculpts or that had unusual face-ups or variations not seen before.

 

i'm about to go to bed but maybe i can translate more in the morning when i'm not too sleepy to read it.

 

PS. he also wrote two earlier entries on their Wonfes Booth with pictures and commentary of the dolls if you go 1-2 blog entries back.

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Galhound

Thanks for the info leitan , I love this Kana modded , I dont know if in the future it is possible that AP release this doll for sale

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katnaper
A quick message to announce , that Angel Philia will be release a new doll soon ,her name is Misa , and the pre-order will be the 28/07/213

 

angelphilia-misa_zps76e9e32a.jpg

 

This night I comment the news XDDDD

 

She is quite pretty (hightails it off to AP to take a peek). I'm beginning to really like these dolls, they're so different from DDs and yet are quite similar too. I love how uber sexy they are especially this girl, her face is just lovely.


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leitan

She is quite pretty (hightails it off to AP to take a peek). I'm beginning to really like these dolls, they're so different from DDs and yet are quite similar too. I love how uber sexy they are especially this girl, her face is just lovely.

 

unless you look through the blog entries on AP or RAP *or* at pictures from their Wonfes Booth / Angel Resort event @ Azone Akiba, you won't see her too much (she was featured at some of their doll shows a few months ago, though). i can do picspam if you like, but if you follow the links in this thread you should be good.

 

like i mentioned, it appears to be a renovated version of VMF50 Eri's head, so i'm really glad they are bringing this head sculpt back with a fresh new look since i had assumed they would never use it again.

 

this particular doll is probably going to be in fairly limited supply, but that's my personal speculation. plus the fact that most of the doll parts are interchangeable - you can practically 'build your own' - means that if any dolls with the same face sculpt get released in future, for extra money you can customize them to your liking in terms of body parts etc.

 

i also haven't checked YJA yet to see if there are any auctions for her from people that purchased at Wonfes, but if there are, they will probably be very marked up.

 

honestly, i'm a convert from DDs. i'm not saying i'll never buy a DD/MDD again or anything like that - you know, there's some SQLabs heads i'd like to own also - but in general i just prefer the height, feel, proportions, looks, and posability of VMFs aside from the fact that their faces (with exceptions of early VMFs/ Super Sonico etc) are less "anime" but not quite "BJD" (although i think that this one, and also Sayo, come quite close to looking like BJD)

 

plus, i like the variation in skintone and body types available. DD are very homogenous when compared to VMFs.

 

oh yes, and the real reason i'm in this thread again:

 

looks like Tommy got bored and the infamous and controversial tentacle stand is back for sale on RAP's site in a (new?) incarnation of itself...

for just 58,000 JPY - yes, that's more than some RAP and AP dolls cost both first AND second hand depending on the doll - it can be yours....

 

(link is NSFL)

 

http://realartproject.cart.fc2.com/ca1/62/p-r-s/

 

i want it "for the lulz" but, i'm sorry, i think i'd rather spend my 58000 JPY on other forms of juvenile entertainment, ORZ

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TomoTomo

Haha yes the tentacle stand Q~Q

 

Did you see they're scale toilet??

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leitan

no, never! was it at an exhibit or on sale at some point? link if you have it.

 

one of the dioramas i most want to build is a 40-50cm doll scale bathroom diorama. i have a gut feeling that anything RAP releases might not be suitable for your run-of-the-mill bathroom (cough) and even if it was would be absurdly expensive, but feel free to share it, haha.

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hah, i actually saw that auction before, it's been up for months. it's not - aside from being scaled 1/3 and the model is a Dollfie Dream, if you read the description, it's apparently um... controlled by remote control?! no indication if that feature is actually functional but just looked to me like one of those ~wacky Japanese~ things someone saw and thought "hmm... doll prop?"

 

i actually had it bookmarked but, i don't think i would work on such a project for a while, plus i think this particular one is too big for the scale i had in mind (can't be sure, though).

 

anyway, i've managed to drag us /OT so i'll add some VMF-related things...

 

there are some special color "Be Face" wigs on Mandarake right now that are made specifically to fit VMFs. you might notice the dolls are pictured wearing the same kimono that was shown in some Angel Resort photos. only the wigs are for sale though - they're about 7 to 9,000 yen. i mention this because they are NOT listed under the "vmf50" search tag on Mandarake and i found them by accident while searching for Unoa kits.

 

you can find them below - it will also pop up a few Unoa & VisuaDoll kits/dolls but if you sort by price ascending then the wigs are cheapest and will appear listed first:

 

http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/shop/en/search.do?action=keyword&doujin=all&keyword=%E3%81%B2%E3%82%81%E3%81%8B%E3%81%9A%E3%82%89%E5%B1%95vol.8&searchStrategy=keyword

 

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also, if you go to the front page FAQ, i added a new section of Japanese-only sites a short while ago (some of which collaborated with the company for doll shows, i think) that have tailored/special sections for VMF clothing and wigs. since they're still "unofficial" links, they're near the end of the first post.

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Nelly19

I would really love a sonico for the type A body, there is one on mandarake now, but i decided if she goes before i have enough for her i will settle for the Type b girl Miu..she has a cool sword and i could work with her bulk or just change her arms and shins lol. Fingers crossed i get one or the other, i will give them dollfie heads to fit a character i am developing. Sigh i wished i could snag her on layaway ..alas I have to hope at least miu stays homeless a bit longer (cruel i know) As for sonico o.o she is so dang popular and finding a unused body (not really the head) is like searching for lost treasure


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TomoTomo

So I am also in the motions of constructing a DDdy

for my collection so I can relate a little bit more to

this crowd and because they have the most

amazing outfits P~P

I would really like to get a Peach Pai bust as part

of my custom build for all the squishy jiggles that

accompany them :p

I noticed they also have a 50cm bust available in

white skin that fits a vmf50 has anyone seen this

on a vmf50 before????

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leitan
I would really love a sonico for the type A body...

 

did they sell out of Sonico already? i don't see the listing. also, they've had a Miu in stock for 50K yen for a while now, which if you don't find a cheap auction on YAJ for her is a decent price.

 

JSYK, Miu was probably never sold with her accessories such as her sword etc. no Original Concept Girl VMFs are/were sold with clothes, accessories, shoes or wigs unless it's a special event or special release. if you wanted the accessories you have to find those on the second hand market separately or buy something similar (pretty sure there are a lot of swords that fit VMF scale dolls)

 

http://realartproject.x.fc2.com/_src/sc2585/5zIMGP2583.jpg

 

Maybe it was a WF release only item??....

 

Tomo, you can't hotlink their site so nobody can see what it is. i recommend using IMGUR for random pic hosting - you don't even need to register an account to host images there, so it takes like 2 seconds to save the image and re-upload it (though i recommend having one if you want to delete the pic later).

 

if it's very NSFW then preferably link to the actual webpage than the image.

 

So I am also in the motions of constructing a DDdy...

 

for any questions about DD or DDdy; you should ask them in other parts of the DollfieDreams forums since this thread is specifically for VMFs/~50cm/etc. i recommend you make a thread in this forum - viewforum.php?f=21 - if you have any questions about DD/DDdy/Peach Pai for DD.

 

since you did mention 50cm PP bust for VMF - i will have a quick look to see if i can find a photo, if i find one i'll link it or post it depending on how NSFW it is.

 

edit i googled "Peach Pai" and the first hit is Danny Choo saying he "reluctantly accepted it as a gift"...reluctantly my ass! Danny, you are fooling nobody.

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JSYK, Miu was probably never sold with her accessories such as her sword etc. no Original Concept Girl VMFs are/were sold with clothes, accessories, shoes or wigs unless it's a special event or special release. if you wanted the accessories you have to find those on the second hand market separately or buy something similar (pretty sure there are a lot of swords that fit VMF scale dolls)

 

Not sure if you'd count it as special event/release or not, but Yamato USA did releases of many of the girls, including Miu with wigs and clothing.

 

ex. http://www.yamatotoysusa.com/page.cfm/892

 

Accessories: Body Type-B, Wig, Outfit (Top, Skirt, Belt, Underwear, Stockings, Boots)

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leitan

maybe, since Yamato USA is/was sort of independent from the Japanese parent company?

 

if the first 4 girls came with equipment originally in Japan, i retract my statement, but i only ever see them boxed in auction pictures the way the ones i own are - naked, eyes, option hands, stand (if magnet feet), paperwork (note: i am super lazy and almost never read an auction description of contents unless i have an interest in buying it, which makes me a reliable source of information)

 

i'll look into it though 'cause i would like to know if a NIB Japanese Miu and friends comes with a fullset. i have seen some stores promote sales of VMFs by "making" fullsets for the dolls that they then just sold together, but these were always one-off or inconsistent.

 

anyway, heads up because this might go fast if anyone is seriously looking for her... there is one auction for MISA from Wonfes up on YAJ with a bid and buyout:

 

http://page16.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/u52404140

 

55k buyout and the bid is a few below that. if anyone lurking the thread wants her, have at it.

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Nelly19

I should be clear, I don't know where I can find a sonico, the one on mandarake disappeared the day I noticed she was there but the miu has been there for a long while...was the type b not as popular? In any event am saving for her. Do you know where I can find a type A body listing? I get a little ver whelmed and lost lol


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i dunno about popularity - for a while i couldn't find a Miu auction anywhere, but lately i have seen quite a few sales of different versions of her.

 

i should note i think there were at least 3 release production runs of Miu. there may be more Miu dolls than other VMFs around, because it's really rare for them to do a reproduction run as far as i know. usually once a doll is sold out, it's "permanent".

 

if Miu is actually less popular it might be due to her similarity to default Obitsu. i think her head is an unmodified Obitsu head aside from being sold with a Yamato face-up. the difference is in her body which has the B bust and the more muscular arms and curvature etc, or there was the tan edition of Miu also which makes her different from Obitsu.

 

with Mandarake, they are selling storefront goods mostly second hand, so there is going to be 1 Miu doll in 1 store somewhere. i have seen a lot of people's grail dolls just sit on Mandarake sometimes for weeks. the price is prohibitive since if you buy online or in person, there is no layaway option, and Mandarake prices are usually (not always) slightly higher than YJA prices.

 

a tip for searching Mandarake for anything is to try different keywords because sometimes the staff putting items online do not label them properly - or in English. with 'vmf50' that is how they were marketed in Japan (so i'm pretty sure Japanese would never type "ビエムエフ50", or however you would properly transliterate that into Kana) but i sometimes just see unmarked goods on there or stuff with a very short title description, or even spelling mistakes in either the Japanese or English title.

 

this also applies to searching places like YJA or Rakuten etc.. but if you don't have a proxy, try searching in Japanese on Mandarake for Sonico...

 

すーぱーそに子

 

...which i just did, and there is currently a listing for an unopened VMF Sonico at 60k yen that i just glossed over when i was looking before (like i said, i'm terrible at reading comprehension) - it's here -

 

http://ekizo.mandarake.co.jp/shop/en/item_s-779697.html

 

just so you know - there are now 3 editions of Sonico, because there is an Angel Philia made Sonico floating around that i think was released in April this year (not sure in what quantity, but she is long sold out on their site).

the AP Sonico has different measurements to the 2 releases of VMF Sonico - VMF is all type A body parts (A-A-A-A...etc), but AP is C2 bust, G torso/hips and A type legs with the High Heel feet.

 

AP Sonico's retail price was 68K yen, JSYK, and she looks like this (official pics kind of hide her body because she's wearing a babydoll top):

 

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Japanese page here - http://arcadia.ac/item/detail.php?gid=58

 

you probably won't find a pure type A body without a head unless you get lucky, but you can probably resell Sonico's head on its own if you buy her and split her, since she's popular and somebody will probably want her. the fact that the Mandarake Sonico sale is unopened might raise the price of it, so you might want to wait for a "used/opened" Sonico sale unless it's really important to you that the body is "like new" (which has its advantages because you can be sure of no stains or external/internal damage, but also costs more)

 

there are 2 auctions on YJA for the Angel Philia Sonico doll right now, both are bid-only starting at retail price and appear to be NIB...

 

http://page13.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/r105101349

http://page7.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/g129365541

 

if i find any good pictures of the new Sonico body or sales of a VMF Sonico/ Type A body, then i'll edit them into the post or PM you or something.

 

note how badly labeled one auction is though - "すーぱーそに子 ベビードールver アルカディア製 新品" - if you didn't search for "Super Sonico" or "Arcadia" she would never even appear in a listing search if you thought only to use expected keywords like "VMF" or "AP" as your only search terms.

 

edit: if you have a proxy, an Obitsu 50/48 frame, and are willing (confident) to do "dolly surgery" then Angel Philia currently sells all Type A body parts in W Skin in their webshop. each part costs around 3,000 JPY - http://angel-philia.com/items/body.php

 

also, there are photos of the new Angel Philia Sonico in the flickr group-

 

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IMGP2957 by 50risa, on Flickr

 

(more photos of AP Sonico from that person if you go to the page)

 

edit #2: for price comparison, there is a used Miu body (and head? but they say it's been customized somehow, even though it doesn't look like much has been done) on YJA with bids at 20K JPY - i predict the auction won't go over 30K yen by much; with low bid auctions it's really rare for them to exceed 30-40K unless the doll is super rare -

 

http://page4.auctions.yahoo.co.jp/jp/auction/d144017822

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Nelly19

Thanks leitan, question, what's a good proxy to use, if I can get the key parts I want I can spare myself the expense of the entire doll I would have to customize in any event, and doll surgery doesn't scare me lol. They are out of Vmf 59 A body parts, but have B type abdomen, thighs, and shins, and A type shins still in stock. Is there a color difference in the type A and type. B body? Thanks for the answers.


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Thanks leitan, question, what's a good proxy to use, if I can get the key parts I want I can spare myself the expense of the entire doll I would have to customize in any event, and doll surgery doesn't scare me lol. They are out of Vmf 59 A body parts, but have B type abdomen, thighs, and shins, and A type shins still in stock. Is there a color difference in the type A and type. B body? Thanks for the answers.

 

there technically should be no difference in skintone between A and B as long as you buy it in W skin (White) and not K (K is tan). however the company itself warned there may be the possibility of variance in skintone. this could be because the tone of the plastic is susceptible to change the same way resin for BJD is, or because they blush the body parts.

 

i recommend you look at my part-swapping infographic here, it has some guidance notes as well > http://i.imgur.com/iNgFYyQ.png

 

also the post on proxies in this thread is here, the TLDR of my post is - i use SMJP, they have good service and i like them, but i don't know if they're the cheapest proxy service around in which case you must research that yourself - http://www.dollfiedreams.com/viewtopic.php?f=39&t=3723&start=150#p105781

 

FYI, the answer to both your questions which i posted above are already answered in the FAQ on page 1 of this thread. i update it periodically to try and be accurate so it's a good idea to check before asking since both your questions have been asked before.

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