nsfw VMF50 & Angel Philia Discussion Thread (nsfw, doll nudity)

I love these girls, I had my eye on a VMF50 from before I even started getting into the hobby and now I'm moving away from DD(all ready) and finally looking joining the VMF50/AP club. Ami, Maya and Misha are my fave sculpts at the moment.

 

it's awesome to have another VMF/AP convert! i have said it before and i'll say it again, i love my DDs very much and it is possible i will get another at some time (SQLab heads have been on my WL forever), but since i started collecting VMFs, hands down i know which type of doll i definitely prefer. which is why most of my forum posts on dollfiedreams are in this thread!

 

I am just a little curious how you guys feel about the bodyblush, I think that on some girls its a little over done as in it looks like they are trying to fake definition. I know a few vmf50 girls have unpainted versions as well.

 

i personally like the blushing... although i don't own any AP dolls yet (only VMF/Dollcore) so i have not seen the most recent blushing examples in person. my VMF50 Sayo has very heavy blushing and i actually really like that about her, because she has pale skin with a very intense red blush which almost looks a bit like sunburn in places. because i like my dolls to have something that seems "a little bit human" about them, even if it is just a very small detail and the rest of the doll is completely unrealistic, i still find that the appearance of a little imperfection in my Sayo's skin because of the intense blushing makes her more appealing to me, not less appealing.

 

i do know what you mean about the 'muscle definition' airbrushing on some girls though. on mine, i think it is not actually overdone, but that's just the individual ones i own, not all VMFs of course. also everyone has different aesthetic tastes about what they like in a doll. i am sure that some people may dislike body blushing for the exact same reason i like it. if you want to remove some of the body blush or lighten it, you might be able to do that the same or similar ways that people remove stains from vinyl dolls perhaps?

 

oh yes...and anyone who owns a VMF doll with blushing knows what they look like naked... and then i think that will also split opinion about how much blushing is 'too much' - depending on why you like them.

 

i can mention this because i noticed there's often extra intense blushing around their 'lady-parts'... and because i have an extremely serious Ph.D. in Lady-part-ology, for those of you still working on your degrees: i can tell you that almost the only time the skin 'down there' is going to get quite so blushed is when there is a lot of blood rushing to it. this is the same reason that most VMF dolls have those diamond-cutting nipples: there are only a very few reasons why real women and girls get that pointy... yes, sometimes it's just very nippy outside and you get cold... and there are other times when your bra doesn't fit right or you're wearing a really annoying, itchy sweater and things get a bit sensitive and chafed (and that's definitely the complete opposite of 'sexy' unless you happen to have a very specific fetish, haha)

 

but obviously, neither of those reasons are why VMF dolls have pointy nips, or why the blushing is heaviest in the areas only visible when they are naked. there's a third reason that hopefully i do not have to spell out for anyone at this point, since even if this thread is 'NSFW' i do not want the discussion to degrade into completely explicit NSFW-talk. so i prefer if people keep things at least slightly coy when we discuss this side of the dolls.

 

so my opinion is that you could say the blushing is all part of the hypersexualizing and fetishization (the earliest VMF dolls had such 'tamer' bodies compared to the direction they are deliberately going in now) and i can understand why people want this, just as much as i can understand why some other people may be turned away from buying the dolls because of it.

 

i am happy that the dolls sell, and i know that they mainly sell because of this, it's a niche that is in demand, especially in Japan, and i do not want Arcadia/AP to stop making dolls or go out of business... but, i also would like people with an interest in VMFs who feel in any way uncomfortable about the over-sexualization to be able to look past it and see that the dolls can hold up on many of the other positive things about them (such as i talked about in the OP of this thread) - they are simply really good dolls - and i wouldn't want someone who might be interested in buying a VMF doll to feel turned off from them because they feel awkward about the hypersexuality: it's as easy to hide it as it is to flaunt it in most cases (dolls like Chiara with the C4 bust are probably an exception to this rule)... you just have to know how style your doll correctly.

 

as usual i cannot give a short answer to a very simple question!

 

more back on topic:

 

Ruko, do you have a top doll out of Ami, Maya and Misha that you are planning on getting? or all three? i would love to know what your plans for your future girl(s) are if you want to talk about it!

 

TomoTomo, did you post a link to your own pictures in this thread at some point? i can't find it - but i would love to see them? you can either respond here or PM me a link if you posted the pics semi-privately.

 

also, this is now going to veer completely offtopic again, but since you're not familiar with her: i was being a tiny bit snarky when i posted that comparison pic - the model is called Dakota Rose, her nickname is KotaKoti, and she is a bit controversial to a lot of girls who live in the west and are interested in the kind of fashion she represents. she had received a lot of hatemail and harrassment over a lot of her (alleged- i don't care enough about her to find out how much of it is actually true) bad behavior and offensive things that she said and did online.

 

however, she now lives and works in Japan and is managed by a modeling agency there, and i believe that she is currently popular over in Japan among teenage girls and male idol fans. she has appeared in Japanese teen fashion magazines, on TV, and represented some cosmetic brands, etc.

if you google her name or nickname you will find her blog and many other pictures of her. it is probably much more amusing that (i think) she looks so much like AP Lena to someone like me that already knew about the gossip and controversy surrounding her.

I am glad to be converting! however I hate to admit that my core reason for converting so soon is because of my impending Volks Banning (nonpayment on Kos-Mos and MOMO ) But as my good friend Somonul tells me its probably for the better. I had plans for my first dollfie and they never really went anywhere, I got her and she just stayed wrapped up in my display case. We also joked about VMF50/AP being more "my style" anyways so yeah . . .

 

As for my Top Doll, I am incredibly fickle when it comes to Dolls... But Ami was the very first one to catch my eye and then Mona because of her somewhat Lolita style(i'm still on the fence about the Type-M head in particular but we'll see if it grows on me) and then Maya who's sculpt is probably my fave of all so far and during my research I saw Misa who's sculpt is also very cute... Anyways rambling aside I'd really like to get all 3 girls But I will probably go after Maya first as my second girl. I am currently working on getting my first girl as a hybrid.

 

The new girl Lena also interests me but mainly because she has the new Type-C5 Bust which looks to be replacing the Type-F, It seems that they are phasing out the old body types and moving over to the Type-C as the base body instead of having various different torso's So they can just swap out the bust parts but I am not sure how I feel about the new Type-C2 Torso though.

It also seems they are moving away for the anime styled

faces aswell Ruko which is a shame IMO I really prefer

the anime style girls but still have a soft spot for some

of the others. Your right saying they're running with the

C type torso now that I think about it they haven't

used another type scince the release of Sayo.......well up

until the release of Kiara but she's a RAP girl;);)

 

Sorry Leitan still no photos to post>< I only took some

as samples for a certain member

 

Holy sha-baam I totally see what you were saying about

the above model, she looks like a doll a doll that goes by

name Lena or rather vice versa. Tommy must of been

using her as a base model0_o,

My fave style is a hybrid Anime/Real style which is what the newer heads are so I do like them a bit more. Kiara's Torso is the Type-C it just has a twist in it. The thing that bothers me though is that Type-C2 Torso has a limited usage just like her Bust the Type-C4 She's the first Doll in the line (I think I don't know for sure) that really locks you into one thing.

 

Also I just wanted to correct something, Maya has the Type-L head at least according to her details on the websites. And going by the order in which the sculpts have appeared it seems to be accurate. so I think the Japanese chart was wrong Unless there is an explanation on it.

 

btw have you guys seen the VMF50 Catwoman that is on pre-order from Yamato USA? She looks to be a Type-C Body with Type-F Bust and Type-M head(Infact she might just be Sayo) she is Going for $800USD with a date of 2014. She has a really nice leather looking bodysuit that seems to have hand fitting gloves O_O

 

I find it funny that Yamato USA still has links to Yamato Japan <.<;;;

Edited December 1, 2013 by Guest

Ruko, thanks for pointing out about Maya's head being "L" - i think you are right and i updated the chart just now to reflect that and a few other things. the JP chart was on the RAP site but O is right next to L on the (American) keyboard so maybe it was a mistake... and there is a new (Shiori?) head i think they are touting as being "type O" so... hmm. it seems you are correct from also looking at other info on their site.

 

i really like the C2 torso. what do you mean by "locks you into one thing" exactly? i'm fairly sure the next doll i will get, i'll want her to have that torso (or maybe i will just get the torso on it's own for one of my existing dolls if i decide not to go with anything new)

 

i like Shiori's sculpt quite a lot, although i'm not sold on her right now. i like the halfway point between having anime and pseudo realism in the VMF faces, it's one thing that makes them more appealing than DDs to me... but i also would like to see some more sculpts that aren't just obvious Sayo variations. such as the "Nemu" that got posted.

 

i also didn't check out the Catwoman girl...huh. doing that now.

What I meant is that all the dolls before C2 Torso have been neutral and the busts have been ... logical . . . but now there is a New torso which has a pose locked in and new bust which has a pose locked in so I may have exaggerated a bit but the point is that they limit the usability of the body for other characters and even for just posing.

 

Wow a new head type and looks like a new bust type too I cant wait to see what they look like. I really hope they make another girl that uses the Type-L head because If Maya is too difficult to find it may be the only way for me to get that sculpt.

Did someone say new head sculpt??

I can't find any info on this can you steer me in the

right direction??

Ruko, as a owner of a C2 torso and that crazy HUGE

bust I can honestly say there's no problems with

posing her in any way, the bust is very soft and

supple I guess to counter just how HUGE they are. I

can only guess they are similar to Peachpai for the

dollfie dream while I'm on the subject the creator of

Peachpai also does them for the Obitsu dolls;);)

The twist in the torso is a little odd making posing a

little limited as you have to consider the direction of

the twist

 

I absolutely love the cat woman the body suit and

accessories look awesome and yes fingered gloves.

If Yamato USA sold internationally I'd be saving my

pennies fur sure

Yes the base model for her is exactly what your

getting Ruko, Sayo/Kiara's head sculpt and a

C type body

OHHH I saw her already I didn't realize she was new, did not read her info TomoTomo she is on the real art project webshop. I like that she has a new bust but once again its a crazy hentai bust even though its a more modest size its still crazy for a different reason

 

Yeah' I'd love to get her just for those gloves thats awesome her boots are nice too .. well her whole outfit minus the mask is pretty good O_O

 

TomoTomo, I sure am looking forward to seeing the Type-C in person XD

Sorry C4 is the bust I'm mentioning

 

Ahh.....yeah the new RAP girl 0_0, not for me

she's very pretty but the whole tounge thing is

meehhh , I've got two of the previous ones and

won't go there again Romina is the only one I

really like;) those boobs one up one down...nah

 

Looks like I'm going to need a USA proxy the

more I look at cat woman the more I like her><

Can someone tell me where is the best place to sell my vmf 50 girl? I need some advice thanks

den of angels allows them to be sold there I think ... and I might even be interested in buying depending on which girl it is although not right now.

 

but otherwise there is always ebay I see them going there every now and then.

Can someone tell me where is the best place to sell my vmf 50 girl? I need some advice thanks

 

Woo, which girl do you have??

I might be interested;)

Can someone tell me where is the best place to sell my vmf 50 girl? I need some advice thanks

 

Den of Angels and Figure.FM allow VMF sales. i think the MP on this site is for Dollfie Dreams strictly, but you should give us some info in this thread, cause there are lots of people here who might be interested in your VMF girl if they know a bit more about her. then you can take it to PMs

Okay thank you ^^ well she is the 1st dollcore edition called karura. I have her official papers and she has body blush and peach nail polish defaulted and her original faceup etc. Anything else please ask?

Okay thank you ^^ well she is the 1st dollcore edition called karura. I have her official papers and she has body blush and peach nail polish defaulted and her original faceup etc. Anything else please ask?

 

sounds great, i love Karura! there was a time i wanted to buy her but right now i am unfortunately not sure if i LTB her because my next VMF-type doll will probably be from Angel Philia or Pink Drops. if anyone is interested i am sure they will PM you though.

 

i would say that you'll probably get people more interested if you have a few pics of her (very few people willing to buy blind) and i also forgot to add that you can sell VMF dolls on myfigurecollection.com as well if you are still looking for a buyer.

 

good luck~!

Ah yes I can get pictures just message me for pics if any1 is interested ^^

Just wondering does anyone have the measurement for C3 and C4 Busts? I'm working on a spreadsheet that has all the info in one place but I haven't been able to find the data for those two. Im also missing data on Lynn she's a stock Obitsu body though and also missing data for Angel Blade but she seems to be a Type-G body.

Ah I have new pics if anyone wants to see please message me. Sorry I don't know about the bust size you mean.

poking my face back in this thread. sorry i haven't been around/updating the frontpage FAQ since the end of August. lots of love to Galhound for posting all the latest pictures and news though! i will try and write an update for the front page soon with any new doll information.

 

i really like Nemu's face in tan. she looks a bit too washed out to me in the pale version. it also looks like Lena's chest is similar to Romina's except much smaller. they are shaped so that they look more natural (aside from the diamond-cutting nipples i mean) which i personally like a lot more than the boobs on some other dolls that are shaped similar to the way breast implants/gravity defying hentai titties hang on your chest. real women don't look like dolls (although some of them try...see below?) but for some reason i really like it when there are still "human" touches on my dolls like the more natural shaped breasts. that's just my personal taste in boobage though.

 

Lena's face though....

 

i don't know if they did this on purpose? but with the way they painted her face-up and the way they styled her in the promo pics that Galhound shared, i looked at them and i can't shake the fact that she looks EXACTLY like a certain American model who is currently very popular Japan...

 

 

hmmm.........

 

oh also! @ Alpaca, it's totally fine to discuss splits and sales and stuff in this thread as long as the mods of dollfiedreams.com do not mind. i'm not a mod so the only authority i have really is that i am the OP of this thread. if anyone takes up your offer you should probably take it to PMs though.

also if you are still looking to do a split of some kind, send me another message on Skype when you have the chance, i might possibly be able to help (i will have to think about it/will depend on what doll you want to split, if you still want to)

 

actually, anyone is always welcome to leave me messages on Skype if i suddenly disappear or if you want to talk about VMF/DD/etc. my SN is xxleitanxx.

 

i probably will do a doublepost/picspam post in a bit anyway. in the meantime i have a fairly weird & creepy picture of Romina on my flickr right now if anyone wants to look though...

 

 

I like your pic! I love the makeup I am really going to make an effort to get one of these dolls, so I may be open to anyone looking for splits, or such. You guys can keep me in your thoughts for these things

Welcome any girl you particularly like??

 

Ruko, which girl comes with those busts??

 

RAP & Tommy have also released a

"adults only" photo book if anyone's

interested......very pervy0_0,

Ruko, which girl comes with those busts??

C3 Bust:

Romina

Marina

 

C4 Bust:

Kiara

Liana

 

C5 Bust:

Lena

 

I added C5 I forgot I didn't have that one either. For some reason they haven't been posting the measurements on the new girls even though they have introduced new bust parts.

I like your pic! I love the makeup I am really going to make an effort to get one of these dolls, so I may be open to anyone looking for splits, or such. You guys can keep me in your thoughts for these things

 

thanks! it's just her default make-up with a bit of photoshop all over it...

 

if i'm thinking of buying any dolls or doll parts anytime soon and think i want to split, i will post in this thread. there's some things on my "doll shopping list" but i need to prioritize what i want right now and i'm not sure how high a new VMF doll or replacement/option parts are on that list yet.

 

Welcome any girl you particularly like??

 

Ruko, which girl comes with those busts??

 

RAP & Tommy have also released a

"adults only" photo book if anyone's

interested......very pervy0_0,

 

Ruko's chart is prolly gonna be different since he's actually looking for the measurements in CM (this will help a lot...) but if you just want a chart showing bust types, check the part swapping chart i made on the main page. it should be reasonably accurate altho it is a WIP... @ http://i.imgur.com/0b8ORkF.png currently but the URL changes whenever i update it so - if you want a more recent chart in future go to the 1st post in this thread.

 

you have a link to the photobook sales/preview page? JW~

 

also, i heard Ruko got his doll! and, i hopefully will have some new pics of my dolls to share soon, since i got some new wigs and eyes for them that i want to show off.

Yeah, My list isn't pretty and it just combines the swap list with measurements, here is a small sample http://i.imgur.com/Q5wWRDB.jpg it actually has every vmf50/AP/RAP girl in it and it is current. I think that the reason torso/thighs are listed together is because they are not interchangeable well you might be able to but they may not look good because of size differences and shape, someone who has the older bodies may want to try swapping to confirm(i'd update it to show what thighs and torsos work together) if it hasn't already been done. Irrelevant for the new girls as they all use the Type-C torso and thighs or the Type-C2 torso and thighs (they are infact different by .1cm O_o)

 

 

YES! I got her and she is great, man how I wish I had gotten Maya or Ami instead of my DD. I would have saved so much money(DDH-07 cost me 225, 75 more and I could have gotten a blank Ami!!! ) and probably had a second girl by now.

Live and Learn I guess... Live and Learn. . .

Awe im sorry about that ruko, I am much happier with my dd's the vmf 50 is just to hard to cloth and I do not sew. I think I also prefer the dd sizing.

you have a link to the photobook sales/preview page? JW~

http://realartproject.cart.fc2.com/ca2/124/p-r-s/ only a few samples there but anythign with these girls needs support!