nsfw VMF50 & Angel Philia Discussion Thread (nsfw, doll nudity)

Volks doesn't seal their faceups. As for Arcadia, I don't know.

Volks doesn't seal their faceups. As for Arcadia, I don't know.

Oh wow, how come? Why we can removing their face up without leaving any paint stain on the head?

What are you using to spray the sealant? That might be the trick. A factory would probably use an air gun that can spray very fine and evenly.

 

Off topic, does anyone know if MSD boy clothes fit well on vmf50? There are some jackets I want but I suspect the sleeves might be too short.

Why would a doll manufacturer not use a sealer on their face-ups?

Possible reasons are:

1) They don't have to. It's one less step, one less expense.

2) They don't use pastels that require a top coat fixative of some kind to keep them in place.

3) Their face-ups are simpler with less layering, which requires fixing of each layer.

4) They are able to use more robust paints that aren't available to the general public.

 

Why does MSC (and other flat "sealers") seem to collect dust?

It helps to know a little about what makes a paint or clear coat flat or glossy. With a "flat" coat there are materials put into it which will cause it to dry to a film which resembles a sandpaper surface. This rough surface disperses reflected light in all directions making it appear less shiny. A gloss coat will not have these materials in it and will dry to an extremely flat film, more like glass. This physically flat surface doesn't disperse reflected light as the rough surface does. It will reflect most of the light at the same angle at which it hits the surface, giving you those shiny white highlights.

We use this "sandpaper" like property of MSC to rough up the relatively smooth surface of vinyl and resin. This rougher surface gives our pastels and acrylic paints more to grip on to. So those final "sealing" coats of MSC, while locking in the face-up pastels and paints, has left the surface very rough. This rough surface has the pleasing property of dispersing reflected light much like light reflecting off of human skin. But it has also provided more places for dust and dirt to grip to.

Anyone else imagine Professor Farnsworth saying the above post?

Wah thanks all for the reply, so factory used special type of paint and sealant, i wish i knew the secret,

 

ah anyway i wish yamato or arcadia make body measurement for their doll, cos its kinda hard to measure the doll for outfit commission, since i doesn't know how to measure it lol

Wah thanks all for the reply, so factory used special type of paint and sealant, i wish i knew the secret

Those are possible reasons. I don't know for certain. And I agree with Minuette. I don't think Yamato/AP uses any sealant on their face-ups*. Unlike other painted things like cars, appliances, or even Barbie dolls, BJDs don't have to weather any extraordinary wear. I imagine most BJD doll makers view their products more as art pieces or collector's items, which won't see as much hard play as a typical Barbie or Monster High would in the hands of a child. Our dolls certainly receive more pampering and care.

 

*There is a known exception. The first few tan Yamato bodies (tan Type E Yumi, tan Type B Miu), received a "clear pearl" coating over all the vinyl. It gave them the appearance of having just applied sun tanning oil. I believe this coating was more for appearance than any sort of protective measure.

There haven't been many pictures post here lately. So...

 

Kalista (AP Lena), Penelope (Pink Drops #2/Haruka), Iris (AP Misa)

Edited July 31, 2015 by Guest

Mmmmm..... Misa ( your Iris ) is so lovely! That pink bunny suit rocks too.

 

 

Billy

Mmmmm..... Misa ( your Iris ) is so lovely! That pink bunny suit rocks too.

The bunny suit is actually sized for a DD2. It's a little big in the waist but otherwise the fit is pretty good.

The Misa head is the same as the Chica (http://www.arcadia.ac/products/detail.php?gid=156) except Chica is tan with a smaller bust.

I'm sorry if this OOT or breaking the rules,

I really want to buy VMF50/angel philia body W/N skin, from someone who accept layaway, prefer with no twisted waist, and normal size bust (not type F) if someone selling the body please PM me,

 

Giving up hunting on yaj and manda, because there's no forwarding service who accept layaway payment, or could someone tell me is there any proxy/forwarding service who accept layaway payment?

I'm sorry if this OOT or breaking the rules,

I really want to buy VMF50/angel philia body W/N skin, from someone who accept layaway, prefer with no twisted waist, and normal size bust (not type F) if someone selling the body please PM me,

 

Giving up hunting on yaj and manda, because there's no forwarding service who accept layaway payment, or could someone tell me is there any proxy/forwarding service who accept layaway payment?

 

 

I understand the want if not need for layaway, as it makes bringing beauties home a whole lot easier and reasonable on the wallet, but I don't think Layaway is really going to be an option for one of these girls. They're hard to come by in the first place so you're probably best to set aside a doll fund to bring one home when you've saved enough.

 

by yokha » Sat Sep 27, 2014 10:31 am

 

Omg I had no idea Misa was the same head as Chica!! I should be able to bring one home now, I've been waiting on a Misa to pop up for me to bring home, but now I can actually work with Chica. Does that bust Misa comes with come in tan? If so even more awesome! Randomly peeking here may have just made my week!

Omg I had no idea Misa was the same head as Chica!! I should be able to bring one home now, I've been waiting on a Misa to pop up for me to bring home, but now I can actually work with Chica. Does that bust Misa comes with come in tan? If so even more awesome! Randomly peeking here may have just made my week!

 

 

Seriously? You're after a Misa too? Isn't it enough for you to have a Tamaki? Now you want my Misa for yourself? Why do you torture me so????

 

Back to reality, there's been a few Misas come up on YJA and Mandarake recently. Most have been listed for around $750 USD tho so they aren't cheap. As for the chest on Chica, I think it's smaller than the one on Misa. I want to say the Misa is a "G" style chest.... the exact same one I want for my Hikari. Trying to find one of those by itself is a royal pain tho, they almost never show up. Altho, a similar sized one did show up on YJA the other day and I bid on it until it went over $50.

 

Anyways, good luck on getting a Misa or Chica! I really want one too but I suppose I can just steal yours once you get her. That's TWO of your girls I need to swipe now......

 

 

 

Billy

 

 

I understand the want if not need for layaway, as it makes bringing beauties home a whole lot easier and reasonable on the wallet, but I don't think Layaway is really going to be an option for one of these girls. They're hard to come by in the first place so you're probably best to set aside a doll fund to bring one home when you've saved enough.

Hha yeah I know, I just want to give my flying head a body so no rush, that's why I prefered layaway, anyway I win angel philia mona auction last week so I don't have any fund left for buying another body. Hha

 

Anywy you looking for misa? There's 2 misa, one new and one used on yaj last week, and my friend win one of them, the new one ended with ¥48000 and the used on ¥39000. And my friend have chika as well sadly he doesn't like her bended waist, so he looking for someone who trade the full body or, just the waist.

Omg I had no idea Misa was the same head as Chica!!

Misa is white skin, Chica is tan. Chica also has the C2 "bent" torso.

Also it's amazing sometimes what a different face-up and wig can do! I have over a dozen Obitsu Harukas and most of them look completely different.

 

Does that bust Misa comes with come in tan?

Misa has the Angel Philia C2 bust, which so far (I think) only has appeared in white skin. The C2 is very similar to the VMF Type G, which came in both white skin and tan.

 

As for the chest on Chica, I think it's smaller than the one on Misa.

It's way smaller. Chica is sporting the C5 bust, one of the smaller busts available, but it's not as small as the VMF Type F.

 

It does sound like it could be time for a big bust comparison picture/chart (big as in comprehensive).

It does sound like it could be time for a big bust comparison picture/chart (big as in comprehensive).

 

Awww yeah! That would be great to see! I'm fluent in DD bust sizes as well as most of the regular Obitsu ones but I'm so new to the AP and VMF girls, I'm pretty lost on their parts and sizes. A side by side shoot or sizing setup would be cool for sure and help those of us who aren't as familiar with them out a bit.

 

That and I wanna see some boobs....

 

 

 

Billy

There's one VMF50 used kanu on ebay! And the price was really reasonable, cos I've seen the same doll ended on yaj for quite a lot more than this one,

 

Anyway here's the link.

http://ebay.com/itm/Yamato-vmf50-Kanu-Unchou-jointed-doll-figure-Obitsu-50cm-Rare-IkkI-Tousen-/121447645294?pt=US_Dolls&hash=item1c46d8006e

There is no better reference than the "body shop".

 

http://angel-philia.com/items/body.php

 

There is some new AZO2 clothes that came out from Azone that might fit VMF50/Angel Philia better than the normal 50cm Azone clothes. Wider at the bust and hips.

 

Here are some pics of my VMF50 Ami:

 

 

 

There is some new AZO2 clothes that came out from Azone that might fit VMF50/Angel Philia better than the normal 50cm Azone clothes. Wider at the bust and hips.

Yes, now that Azone has taken the plunge into doing their own custom other-than-Obitsu-stock body parts we should be seeing a lot more Azone clothes that are big bust friendly.

I have azone50 siggy, she's on azo2 body, I can say, the hips and thighs really similar to VMF/ap type A and the bust was similar to type G, but more higher, the clothes fits perfectly on VMF/ap with big boobs, C2 or G and A, but their height actually more than 50cm atleast 52-53cm their legs was longer than everage obitsu50 legs but their thighs was on the same length, azo2 hot pants fits VMF/ap type A perfectly and type G thighs but on the type G we need a lil bit more effort to make the pants passes the wide part of the thighs.

Seriously? You're after a Misa too? Isn't it enough for you to have a Tamaki? Now you want my Misa for yourself? Why do you torture me so????

 

Hehe, yeah I remember telling you a long time ago I was interested in getting a VMF girl, Misa stole my heart at first sight. Also, don't blame me for the torture Tama-chan demanded to have a constant supply of fan service, so she needs Misa to provide that >:3 Already have her name picked out and everything lol it's Pan, though Tamaki already nicknamed her Pantsu.

 

Back to reality, there's been a few Misas come up on YJA and Mandarake recently. Most have been listed for around $750 USD tho so they aren't cheap. As for the chest on Chica, I think it's smaller than the one on Misa. I want to say the Misa is a "G" style chest.... the exact same one I want for my Hikari. Trying to find one of those by itself is a royal pain tho, they almost never show up. Altho, a similar sized one did show up on YJA the other day and I bid on it until it went over $50.

 

Yeah I have seen a few go on YJA, I was watching a Misa for 59k last week. I wanted to pounce her so bad but couldn't Picked up a sexy leather set as consolation xD

 

Anyways, good luck on getting a Misa or Chica! I really want one too but I suppose I can just steal yours once you get her. That's TWO of your girls I need to swipe now......

 

 

 

Billy

 

You would have to get past the resident Tank xD

Sorry ahead of time, I wanted to break it up into 2 posts vs 1 Tsunami post ...

 

Misa is white skin, Chica is tan. Chica also has the C2 "bent" torso.

Also it's amazing sometimes what a different face-up and wig can do! I have over a dozen Obitsu Harukas and most of them look completely different.

 

Oh, I know! I didn't look her over too closely so I had no idea! I definitely might be plotting to have them both. I would want them both to have the same proportions though.

 

Misa has the Angel Philia C2 bust, which so far (I think) only has appeared in white skin. The C2 is very similar to the VMF Type G, which came in both white skin and tan.

This is great news, so I might actually get to piece together a similar body for Chica. Only one question really are the VMF and AP parts interchangable? I thought I read that they both use the obitsu body structure, but I wanted to make sure of that.

 

 

 

It does sound like it could be time for a big bust comparison picture/chart (big as in comprehensive).

 

Seconded, it'd be awesome to have a chart to see them all!

Why do you torture me so????

 

Torturing Billy is more fun than riding an inflatable dolphin at a bithday party!

 

Torturing Billy is more fun than riding an inflatable dolphin at a bithday party!

 

 

I really hate that you find so much enjoyment in torturing me. But I also LOVE when you post awesome pictures of your Misa. That is one THIN swimsuit she has on..... excellent outfit!

 

And Keijogirl, do you really think Tank is ANY sort of viable security for your girls? All I need to do is bring Manami along with me and he'll run for the nearest corner, cringing there in fear until Manami leaves. So yeah, I'm not too worried about him.

 

 

 

Billy

Only one question really are the VMF and AP parts interchangable? I thought I read that they both use the obitsu body structure, but I wanted to make sure of that.

Yes they are. There are a few combinations that look less than stellar (like Type A abdomen/hips and Type D thighs) but they are all mechanically compatible. When Yamato Toy Company (VMF50s) went belly up they resurfaced as Arcadia/Angel Philia. AP still uses some VMF parts on occasion.

 

Seconded, it'd be awesome to have a chart to see them all!

I've started work on the "chart". I have about 16-17 different Obitsu/Azone/VMF/AP busts. I don't have the newer Azone AZO2 body (G bust) and at least two VMF/AP busts, but I'll sub in stock pictures.

That's a lot of girls to undress (did I just say that?).