Staining wig

Hello everyone~!

Today I received this lovely wig from Leeke world. The wig is totally perfect for this character I have in mind, so it was an instant buy for me.

However when I started to cut her bang and try to style her hair, I noticed that her nose have turned green! And so had her forehead! I quickly removed the wig and started to wash it off. I also noticed some green stains UNDER the wig cap?

 

I've never heard of having this much trouble with a lightcolourd wig, is it common? I've never had this much trouble with any wigs, not even dark ones.

Is there any way I can save this wig, by washing it or something...? I really want to use it on my girl since it's so perfect and she looks so adorable in it... ; ^ ; Any recommendations?

Buy a Silicon Cap? I think that's the only thing you can do honestly. And try to keep her hair out of her face

Well it does say on the site that it's colored with powder, making it different from a normal wig. If it were me, I'd be afraid to wash the wig in case I ended up with a white wig instead of a colored one. That's a tough call. Leeke seems to be implying that they know the powder will get on your doll, but that it comes off easily. But they're talking about resins, where even the worst dark stain still comes off with a magic eraser.

 

But if you really want to use it, I agree with Shailara. Try a wig cap, although I'd use a cloth one too. And try not to let her hair touch her face.

Yeah, that worried me too ;_; The colour is so lovely and I don't want to lose it....

I do have a silicon cap, maybe I can use both or something??

You can use a cloth wig cap over a silicone one.

It really helps.

Just as a warning, if the wig stains, using a silicone cap only will NOT prevent more stains. The color goes right thru silicone wig caps. You need a cloth wig cap to help keep stains off your girl. And Nekopon is right, using a silicone cap under a cloth cap is a great way to keep the wig frm moving around and to keep stains away.

 

 

Billy

I don't think a wig cap will help Anywhere the hair touches could stain--her forehead, cheeks, neck...not just the top of her head where the wig cap is. Since it's the colored hair fiber that is the problem and not the fabric the wefts are sewn to, I don't think there's a way to keep this wing from staining (by the sounds of if).

Thank you for the help guys! She now wears both of the wigcaps, and her normal wig. XD I guess her new wig is just for very special occasions...

I don't think a wig cap will help Anywhere the hair touches could stain--her forehead, cheeks, neck...not just the top of her head where the wig cap is. Since it's the colored hair fiber that is the problem and not the fabric the wefts are sewn to, I don't think there's a way to keep this wing from staining (by the sounds of if).

Yeah...I guess I will use it much less then expected.... ; n ;

Hmm, it says "some" of the art wigs are made with pearl or powder. Does this mean this is a risk for any of them? I ask, because I bought this similar Leeke art wig:

 

http://www.leekeworld.com/En/Product/p_view.asp?it_code=5011&B_catalog_num=146

 

I love the way it looks, but I haven't tried it on a DD yet. Now I'm afraid . . .

Maybe try touching the colored parts to see if the color comes off on your fingers first?

I just checked my art wig on my spare arm. Small bits of green powder are coming off. They wipe away easily, but I would not want to risk prolonged contact.

 

I'm glad that I found this thread before I put that green art wig on the super-expensive new custom head that's coming soon -- I was going to use it on her.

 

Regular Leeke wigs seem fine, so I think this is just for the art wigs.

I just checked my art wig on my spare arm. Small bits of green powder are coming off. They wipe away easily, but I would not want to risk prolonged contact.

 

I'm glad that I found this thread before I put that green art wig on the super-expensive new custom head that's coming soon -- I was going to use it on her.

 

Regular Leeke wigs seem fine, so I think this is just for the art wigs.

Glad I could help! (: I hope more people find this thread so they know this before they buy....

 

Also, do you guys think I can spray it with something?

I guess it is a dumb question, but why color a wig with power color that comes right off? Even if it is an 'art' wig, it is supposed to go on a doll. Powder color will color a resin doll, too.

 

To my logical mind, that is nonsensical unless there is a use I am not aware of.

 

Glad to find this out though, I had considered one of these and am happy to know in advance. I will not be purchasing it.

ok so leeke wigs = evol

Leeke claims:

 

"- Some Art wig made with pearl or powder. That pearl or powder's dust can be stick to your doll's head.

But it can be removed easily."

 

They suppose it's okay as long as it can be removed "easily"?

I guess it is a dumb question, but why color a wig with power color that comes right off? Even if it is an 'art' wig, it is supposed to go on a doll. Powder color will color a resin doll, too.

A sacrifice they decided to make for multicoloured wigs? They are beautiful and unique wigs after all. Apparently they clean up easily for resin dolls.

Must be the Art wigs that have a heavier and more prominent color base. The Leeke Art wig I own doesn't have this problem thank goodness.

 

I feel bad for those who do own ones that have this issue. I couldn't stand paying all that for a wig and not being able to use it for fear of the staining and loose powder falling from it.

 

You would think Leeke would have sealed the color in better.

Yeah, I'm really bummed that I can't use this wig because the colour is amazing. But it's not worth the risk.

 

As far as I know, this is only a problem for the art wigs, not normal Leekeworld wigs.

OK, so, someone tell me something about wigs. Apart from the semi-obvious monetary motive of using a dark wig cap on a wig to hide the threadbare nature of the wig itself, why would any doll maker, or maker of accessories for dolls make wigs using wig caps that can stain the doll? I mean seriously, the wigs are going on flesh colored vinyl, why not use flesh colored wig caps?

 

Second, color leeches through silicon wig caps? Is that color from the powder or other secondary coloring, or color from the wig cap and/or fibers themselves? This seems like one of those ludicrous situations where a make of a doll or accessory could make a simple change to avoid damaging dolls, but don't. I reminds me of Volks and those darling little brand labels that they sew into the seams of all their garments, the same wonderful brand labels that stain soft vinyl with great ease. How hard would it be to switch to a label ribbon made color fast, or a lighter non-threatening color?

 

Maybe we should all start demanding wigs be made on flesh tone wig caps instead of dark ones?

OK, so, someone tell me something about wigs. Apart from the semi-obvious monetary motive of using a dark wig cap on a wig to hide the threadbare nature of the wig itself, why would any doll maker, or maker of accessories for dolls make wigs using wig caps that can stain the doll? I mean seriously, the wigs are going on flesh colored vinyl, why not use flesh colored wig caps?

To your first question, perhaps because some owners would find it really not to their liking if they have a black wig and the wigcap showed. And you can't always find wigcaps that match your doll's color so that you could just think of it like the head showing under the hair (what about tan dolls and fantasy colored dolls?). If you want flesh-tone wigcaps, just buy from Crobidoll. They made it their rule to use flesh-tone wigcaps, I'm guessing because they had too many complaints about wig stains.

 

As a side note, from what I understand, it's not just the wigcap that stains anyway.

Hi Shailara,

 

OK, I can understand that, I have a few wigs with a fleshtone wig-cap that just don't look right when you part the hair, and which look particularly threadbare depending on how they are styled. I get the point. But, if I may, why should we have to accept that to have a wig with a colored wig cap and/or vibrantly colored wig, we must either compromise on the look of the doll by placing a double layer of stain mitigation on the head, or accept staining of our valuable vinyl ladies?

 

You may already have had this discussion here before, but I'll ask the rhetorical question anyway. Why if you're going to make doll wigs for vinyl (or resin) dolls, why would you make a wig using a wig cap and/or wig fiber material that you know will (for a certainty) stain the doll? For that matter, why make garments that you are aware will stain the doll as well?

 

Volks send out wigs, underwear and outerwear that they *know* will stain the skin of the expensive vinyl collectable that they are selling. They are not alone and it's not only vinyl, but resin girls also that experience the issue. 3rd party makers of wigs and clothing treat the staining issue as if it's something solely for the customer to deal with. They continue with their devil may care attitude of making garment and wigs that, without even testing them, you know will stain the material your doll is made from.

 

Sure you can buy stain mitigation garments and wig caps, but how far does one have to go to protect the doll? In this topic alone I've read that silicon wig caps are insufficient and you need to have a fabric wig cap in addition. considering that the fibers in the wig itself may also stain the doll a full stain mitigation suit may be required, but if the doll is wearing a dark outfit you'll want that anyway.

 

So we collectors are supposed to take these beautiful creations with vinyl that have near perfect tone and complexion; cover them with a synthetic knit garment from head to toe, add a silicon head cap and fabric head cap, all so we can have a raven goth girl? That's just plain crazy to me. If I wanted a fabric doll I could buy flesh-tone fabric, stuffing material and clear monofilament thread and sew myself one. If you start with your doll completely nude and dress her, and then you add a nice close fitting, well made wig she ends up looking awesome. But, using a stain mitigation garment and a larger loose fitting wig that you then place a silicon and fabric wig cap underneath to protect the doll just looks clunky to me. It's like putting black lingerie on a doll, you are afraid to risk it, so you put a body suit on the doll. But once you do that, the pretty skin-tone and sculpt are covered with a layer of fabric removing the point of wearing the sexy black lingerie.

 

Obviously spending anything from $400+ for a generic vinyl from Volks/Obitsu or $750+ for a character from Volks, I don't want a fabric doll. So, why is it that I am supposed to accept this state of affairs where garment makers and wig makers (and doll makers) take no responsibility for ensuring that their accessories do not damage my dolls?

 

I have a new lady that has a great dark blue wig. But, I'm afraid that the wig cap or wig itself will turn her head blue/black. So, I have a silicon wig cap and will be adding a fabric one too to help with stain protection and the fit (the wig is a little too large for her head). However, I can already tell you that the wig just doesn't look right when adjusted away from the edges of the wig cap. Because the wig maker took no responsibility for ensuring their wig will not damage my doll, I have worry about leaving the wig on her all the time. I could remove it, and put something else on in the meantime, but her character has dark blue hair, she would not be 'her' without it.

 

I'm not exactly new to the hobby, but every time this discussion comes up it revolves around the steps owners can take to prevent staining. It seems like owners feel powerless to alter the situation and so spend even more money on stain mitigation. I'm guessing wig and garment makers will say it costs more to make wigs and garments that are pre-tested against staining. If we're going to spend $20-$30 on wig caps and body suits to protect our dolls against these things, why not simply put that additional cost on the garment/or wig, and ensure that it's safe to use without the wig caps and body suits?

Well, I already said what I had to say about wigs. Even if they use flesh-tone cap, the fibers of the wig will stain the doll head anyway and I doubt there's anything they can do about it, except only make white wigs? (because I've seen blond wigs stain too). There are companies that choose to use one flesh-tone wigs so it's your choise where you want to buy from.

 

As far as clothes go and testing, I've heard washing the clothes a few times helps a lot to remove much of the color/dye/pigment? (i don't know what's the correct word for this). I'm guessing Volks/any other cmopany doesn't do that because it might wash away some of the color and someone might be more picky about the color rather than the stains on their dolls (since most stains that will be made can be prolly be hidden under clothes/wigs). Stains on resin dolls can be easily removed with a magic eraser anyway, which I hear is not the case for DDs though.

 

I think this is the doll owners responsibility. They warn you after all. Most companies write on dark clothes' pages that they might stain if you leave them on for long. Wether you put them on the doll anyway and risk staining your doll is your entirelly your choice. I don't think it's about the cost of pre-testing, it's just I don't think there's any kind of fabric or color dye out there that will not stain your doll.

Resin can stain more deeply than surface, but if you are quick you can removed it from the surface, my resin Angels will attest to that. Vinyl can be permanently stained when dye transfer occurs, there are stain removers, but they are only so successful, and in many cases a permanent mark will remain.

 

I've never seen the fibers in a wig stain a doll, so I have to take your word for it.

 

I don't see how you can say that it's the owner's responsibility when you are talking about accessories made specifically for vinyl dolls that will actually damage the vinyl of the doll. Volks supplying wigs and garments that are effectively guaranteed to damage your doll if used is really a horrible state of affairs. It's not like the outfits and wigs are optional, they are integral parts of the product being sold. Yet they are inherently flawed at the time of manufacture.

 

Imagine if you purchased a computer from HP or Dell, the system comes with a power supply and carry case. Imagine if the power supply oversupplied the system causing it to overheat unless the user took additional steps to cool the system, and the carrying case was actually too weak to hold the computer unless reinforced by the customer before use. Would such a product be allowed? PC manufacturers in such a situation would be successfully sued, and make changes to their product.

 

Why should a purchaser of a vinyl character doll be faced with a choice of ruining the $750+ purchase by either installing the clothing and wig supplied, or making compromises and alterations to the doll in the form of stain mitigation at additional expense, before installing the supplied clothes and wig. Volks are knowingly supplying flawed products and foisting the responsibility on the customer to modify their purchase in order to use it without damaging it.

 

I completely disagree with your assertion that it is the responsibility of the owner, when the clothing and wigs are supplied with the doll, as an integral part of the purchase and product.

 

I can accept that aftermarket products like outfits and wigs purchased from third parties are the responsibility of the owner since they effectively alter the use of the purchased doll. That said, in most other spheres of consumer purchase, the accessories you purchase are not inherently damaging to the product they are purchased for use with. OK, there are warnings on some products that they *may* cause staining - so the consumer can choose. Although, I feel strongly that 3rd parties making wigs and garments for vinyl dolls, ought to take a greater responsibility in ensuring that their products do not damage the dolls they are intended to be used on.

so... you're going to sue volks now?