Staining wig

I just really don't understand what you're expecting them to do. Like I said, I doubt there's even any kind of fabric/dye that doesn't stain and if they find it, they'll have to make clothes only out of it? Cause even washing a bunch of times, it may still leave stains? I really don't get it...sorry...

 

Also as far as computers go, that's what they actually do, but not so "fast". A warranty lasts...2? 3? years...computers will surely break down and need reinforcements after a while (my laptop for example needs a fan during summer or else it turns off from overheating and it can't support Photoshop anymore which would mean I'd need to upgrade)

I don't think that Volks could be successfully sued over staining either, since they do have warnings. McDonald's was only successfully sued for a hot coffee spill once, then they put a caution label on their cups so that they couldn't be sued again.

@Shinegamix, No I'm not, and I don't think I ever said I was, thank you very much.

 

@Shailara, I'm expecting them to supply a product that is not broken by design. That was the point I was making regarding staining from wigs (and by extension other items) supplied specifically for use with a vinyl doll. It's not impossible to make these things in such a way that there is no danger of staining, but I see no reason for anyone to pay a large sum of money for something that if used as designed will be damaged immediately.

 

Are you content for a $750+ purchase to be stained instantly you dress it with the supplied outfit? Please no one else quote how resin can be cleaned, I was under the impression that this was a discussion about wigs staining vinyl dolls - aka Dollfie Dreams, which are an entirely different kettle of fish to resin. Resin will stain however, though it is more resistant to it that vinyl.

 

I do not understand how any of you can be content to have this situation where the doll and outfit supplied as a single product from Volks cannot be used together without either damaging the product irreparably, or by making additional purchases of third party items to compromise the look in order to avoid damage. Nor am I saying Volks is along in this - far from it, but this is DollfieDreams 'dot' com and I was under the impression that would make Volks on topic and other companies and resin dolls off topic.

 

BTW, no, that's not what computers do, they are not designed to burn out because of over-volting, they are designed to prevent overheating and thermal damage, they have special circuitry in the chips to sense temperature and shut down gracefully. But if the power supply is flawed and pushes too much power it can burn out other component resulting in a premature failure.

 

@Jezrah, Any company can be sued if they provide a product that is unfit for it's purpose. McDonalds was sued despite the labeling because the contention was that the coffee was sold at a dangerously high temperature - I believe it was over 190F. You can't consume a drink that hot with safety, it's effectively unfit for it's purpose at the point of sale. In that case, there was plenty of contributory negligence on the part of the person that sued them. However the case was won, and damages were awarded (If I remember correctly), because it was considered that the temperature of the coffee was dangerously high. McDonalds should have been aware that beverages being sold at a drive through will be consumed while the vehicle is in motion, and that anything that could cause a spill whether through negligence of the driver or not was a danger that could be anticipated and mitigated. In other words, McDonalds should have known that selling flexible cups full of liquid a mere 10 degrees off boiling point was a an accident waiting to happen, and that the temperature of the drink was high enough to scald/burn.

 

Volks are well aware that soft vinyl stains very easily, they are well aware that their items stain the dolls. that's why they do not ship the dolls dressed. The doll and outfit are sold as a single product and it is undeniable that using certain of their outfits with an unmodified doll results in permanent damage to the doll. No amount of warnings on the box will alter that, nor will they alter the fact that Volks could make changes to mitigate the risk.

 

Well, that's enough from me, I stated my opinion, make excuses for Volks and others all you like, it doesn't make what they do right, and it won't change my feeling that they and other doll wig/clothing manufacturers should do more to protect their customer's purchases from damage.

I am really doubting you're even reading what I'm saying.

 

There's probably no material in the world to make wigs and outfits that won't stain your pretty doll.

 

That's enough from me too uvu

 

(also Jezrah said MD put the label AFTER getting sued so it wouldn't happen again)

A lot of expensive items lose value over initial purchase.

 

When you drive a car off the lot, you lose half its value.

It's susceptible to dirt and damage immediately.

But you can clean it.

 

When you buy a computer, it will depreciate quickly in time.

It's susceptible to viruses and physical damage.

But you can probably fix those viruses.

 

When you use a doll, you don't lose half its value.

It's susceptible to stains.

But you can clean it.

 

You can protect all of these things in their own way. Car covers, insurance, virus scanners, body stockings- but when you buy something, you also have to understand the probability for it to be damaged.

 

You're not going to ask why they haven't made dirt-resistant paint for cars or computers that are not prone to viruses- because they simply don't exist. You shouldn't ask this of dolls either.

A lot of expensive items lose value over initial purchase.

 

When you drive a car off the lot, you lose half its value.

It's susceptible to dirt and damage immediately.

But you can clean it.

 

When you buy a computer, it will depreciate quickly in time.

It's susceptible to viruses and physical damage.

But you can probably fix those viruses.

 

When you use a doll, you don't lose half its value.

It's susceptible to stains.

But you can clean it.

 

You can protect all of these things in their own way. Car covers, insurance, virus scanners, body stockings- but when you buy something, you also have to understand the probability for it to be damaged.

 

You're not going to ask why they haven't made dirt-resistant paint for cars or computers that are not prone to viruses- because they simply don't exist. You shouldn't ask this of dolls either.

 

Viruses are not supplied with the computer, dirt and damage on a car do not occur due to parts supplied by the manufacturer. There's a huge difference.

 

I don't really understand why you're all quite so happy and willing to excuse doll wig/apparel makers from even trying to prevent or mitigate staining. Whatever, it's quite clear that a dissenting opinion is not welcome.

Oh, they try but some of the effort is upon the doll owners themselves also.

 

No one can take all the blame.

Also, what can get across a message that a change is wanted aside from boycott? I don't know about you, but I'm not willing to do that. I know that even if thousands of people boycott Volks, that would just lead to thousands of others buying things in our place. Since Volks has limited releases that drive value up, there will always be demand.

so you want volks to include bodysuits/headcaps as a standardthing then?

so you want volks to include bodysuits/headcaps as a standardthing then?

One could say that, in a way, they already do, if you purchase from Volks themselves at a shop. When I picked up Rin in LA in 2009, the shop ladies strongly recommended that I buy a wig cap and body stocking to go with her.

First I want to apologize for my unreasonable attitude and posts yesterday. Reading over them again, I owe Shailara (in particular), Shinegamix and Jezrah an apology, I am not trying to pick a fight with anyone, and reading over my posts, I can see that you each could easily feel that I was doing so.

 

I am sorry. That was not my intention. I have no reason or excuse to offer, I was in the wrong, pure and simple. My attitude was combative, and unreasonable. It won't happen again.

I didn't really think you were trying to pick a fight or anything. I was just trying to understand you (and what you were expecting of Volks/makers to do). I didn't misunderstand, don't worry. I try not to take things in a bad way, since it's the internet and tone/emotion can easily be lost in a text.

(You have to see my attitude when trying to defend companies I really love, like Luts LOL)

 

this is getting slightly off topic thought uvu;;;

Actually, I agree with Highlander's main point... Volks should make a better effort to make wigs and outfits that don't stain. Some staining is inevitable/the buyer's responsibility, but some Volks products really really could be better (like the Saber dress that stains on contact--they really should have used a fabric that doesn't do that). Nude wigcaps for wigs, pretesting fabrics to find ones that don't stain easily, etc... Their products aren't cheap, and they are made specifically for vinyl dolls, so I think they should make sure their products don't immediately ruin the poor dolls. It pretty much keeps me from buying Volks outfits/fullsets.

 

This topic was about Leekeworld Art wigs, though. Leekeworld makes things for resin dolls, so I can't really blame them if their products stain vinyl dolls *shrug*

I still think they should make dark wigs with light linings. Like if Volks made their dollfie dream black wigs have peach wig caps..yes it would mean the wigs might have a place or two where the cap showed through..but certainly thats better than wig stains from dark wig caps...

 

The hair isn't what stains its the threads that hold the hair in and the wig cap itself..

Natural fibres that have never been dyed don't stain your beloved doll. This is hard as you have to basically source and make everything yourself. Limits fantasy colours.... I have been chasing the holy grail hues of alpaca and various other breeds of goat to get the natural colour for wig making. Also silk roving, soya, bamboo, banana, seacell, ramie Noil, milk fibre and ingeo corn tops to name a few. If you do any dying yourself and make a good foundation it's so much better and more satisfying than any company wig.

 

As for the outfits.... They ought to do better but they won't.... I know some of you will go bonkers when you read what I say... I have a little zip up laundry bag for miniature items and I basically just put them in that and chuck them in the washing machine! I may have just given people a heart attack. Generally I never keep company outfits on my dolls for very long so a very pricy outfit from a company I'll just put on for photo's but generally all my dolly clothes are handmade from etsy or commissioned from someone like em'lia couture or jiajiadoll . I don't tend to like bright prints so most of the clothes my girls wear are low stain risk. I choose a lot of the fabric for items myself. I like my girls in natural fibres Sometimes they'll just wear a white shirt and skirt, and a pair of atelier Momoni birks!

My friend told me that I could try rinsing the wig in lukewarm water and see what happened. Worst case scenario was that the wig would turn white (at least I could be able to use it then).

 

I tried this today, I made sure to make the entire wig wet and then I let it hang for a couple of hours to dry.

Nothing really happened, except that the wig turned wet. Just tried the wig on my DD and before the wig stained her IMMEDIATELY but now she have worn it for about an hour and no sign of stains yet...Maybe it worked???

 

UPDATE: I tried to wash the wig yesterday and it worked! I put the wig in a sink with hot water and schampoo. I mixed the water really well and let the wig lay there for about 10-15 minutes. When I picked it up the water had turned into a greenish pink, I guess some colour disappeared, but it's barley noticeable on the wig. And now she can wear it almost fine. o_o

I let her wear it for the entire day today, and so far no signs of stains.

Has anyone tried the wigs from wigs2dolls company on there DD heads due to there's two that l want to get but not sure if they well stain the DD heads?

Pahsmina, I am glad it worked out for you! My Rika has two Leeke art wigs that she switches out (neither of which I can find a picture of, currently), and I've always worried about the possibility of them staining her. So far, I haven't had a problem, but I am happy that they can safely have the extra chalks rinsed from them and still be lovely! Now my girl can have even more wigs to choose from!

Just dropping my 2 cents in...

 

Personally I have found many fabrics that don't stain our dolls, and Raven and I have 2 white-skinned girls. I use fabrics that are meant to be used for clothing, and I have yet to have an issue.

 

As much as we would love to have a perfect world for our dolls, it's not realistic. Staining is a known fact of DD life, just like you can't keep a little kid from getting bumps and bruises.

 

Raven and I knew really early on that we had a choice to make, either we could have perfect dolls who sat in a cabinet, safe from everything, covered head to toe to keep the evil stains at bay, or we could have dolls that we loved, played with, get damaged and worn out. For us the imperfections just show how much they have been loved. Tamayuki is only about a year and a half old, but his body is floppy, both ankles are busted (design flaw), his elbows have been repaired with clear nail polish many times now, and the ring that holds his upper body to his lower body is held together with tape, and even his faceup needs to be touched up, and I only did it last August. He's had a very active and rough life, and I admit to snuggling with him at night sometimes like a stuffed animal when I really need to, but I wouldn't trade him for anything. His body can be replaced, but I can't imagine not having spent so much time with him.

 

In contrast, Naiomi has been completed since last autumn, but I've been so afraid to damage her that most of the time she just sits there looking pretty. All her joints are very stiff, she has not a mark on her body despite wearing a skirt with a lot of navy color on it for months (and no underwear). I've done everything I can to be careful with her, but even so her glasses have damaged her face by leaving noticeable marks in the sealant (from the pressure, not the color), and she fell once when I was trying to do some pictures and scraped the end of her nose. My point being that even when we do try to be as careful as we can be, life still happens.

 

I have struggled similarly with loving many of Volk's outfits, but honestly in my opinion they have not shown to be all that reliable for the overall quality in the clothes they sell. Even the set of blue striped underwear that we bought from them was crooked, poorly fitted, and had some very obvious design flaw in my point of view. They may be made in Japan, but the facts are that they are still mass produced, and it shows. I think the biggest issue with the staining (including the Volks wig caps!) is they make things for the look of it, not because it is the highest quality that they can manage. The often staining fabric to me is an indication that it is a cheaper option with bold colors, so from the business standpoint it make sense. On the collector end of it, it surely does not.

 

Even in this hobby not everyone who is overly concerned with keeping their girl in mint quality wants to take the extra cost to buy the clothing designed with vinyl DD in mind, making sure the outfits are lined, using quality fabrics that have been checked, and the threads have been double checked not to stain. I personally would love to know who those consumers are.

 

Its disappointing when a company doesn't listen to the buyer's concerns over issues like this, but to put it bluntly, it is still your choice to buy what you choose, and the inherent risks that may go with it.

 

~Sister Kyoya

Yes, Volks quality on clothing is sketchy sometimes.

Even the top-tier limited dollfie dreams have QC issues with the dresses.

Hmm.

I've had the problem with wig caps staining my resin bjds and I read that's a huge issue with DD's, but did I just read that the hair fibers are something to worry about as well? As in like buy a black with from eBay or Luts. Would I have to be really worried about the fibers sitting on a DD's skin?

My gut is telling me no, but it's better to ask rather than mess up on my first DD. >.<

Hmm.

I've had the problem with wig caps staining my resin bjds and I read that's a huge issue with DD's, but did I just read that the hair fibers are something to worry about as well? As in like buy a black with from eBay or Luts. Would I have to be really worried about the fibers sitting on a DD's skin?

My gut is telling me no, but it's better to ask rather than mess up on my first DD. >.<

 

No, the wig hair fibres are not a problem. The only exception seems to be the limited Leekeworld Art wigs which have some sort of powder in them to make the artsy colours.

 

No, the wig hair fibres are not a problem. The only exception seems to be the limited Leekeworld Art wigs which have some sort of powder in them to make the artsy colours.

 

Unfortunately that is not true. My Alice Kuonji's default wig fibers did stain her forehead. She was wearing a double wig (silicon with a white fabric cap covering) cap for her head and none of the actual cap was touching the dolls skin in any way, shape or form.

 

Even with extreme precautions there is a dusting of dark purple satins above her eyebrows. Very disappointing. Beware super dark wigs.

I know you have already had lots of great advice so I won't add to that.

 

But, I did have a somewhat similar experience. When I bought my brand new Yoko (after the lottery), I put a black wig on her for maybe 2 days at most. Well, her head got stained

 

This is the same wig I have had on resin heads for weeks on end and it never stained the resin. Of course, I know Dollfie's are made of vinyl I just didn't realize how much more sensitive they are.

 

So, ever since then I have kept Yoko's original wig on her. I know eventually, though, I will want a different look for her so will have to double up on a wig cap to be safe.

Anyone knows about Alice's wig? I have it, and i love it but i'm a little bit terryfied xD Aya's wear it two times and with a cap + another cap of silicon xD