Negativ feedbacks and revenges ~

Hi hi ^^

 

I have a question about negativ feedback.

 

I have sometimes the feelings to give negative feedback ( Dont worry for those were i did buisness with in the past)

But then i am afraid to get negative feedback as a revenge even if i did everything right.

Is it possible to report this "revenge" than?

What do you think about the whole situation?

I believe negative feedback should be left whatever the case. The feedback is left not for you, but for others to see what this person is like/has done. To warn them. I've had to leave flakey feedback once and the girl kind of threw a fit (in her own feedback thread) making it actually worse for her. I 'am' afraid of the backlash, but like I said, when I leave feedback, it's because I need to warn other people and not because I want to make them feel bad or something.

If you've done everything right, then you have nothing to fear though. Whatever they might say in return will only result in them hurting their name more since anyone will be able to tell that they're at the wrong and are just being child-ish ^ ^;;;

I know exactly how you feel Anouc, and I feel as though I'm currently in this situation.

 

I want to leave flakey feedback for a transaction I recently had to deal with, but am currently going about how to do it. Unfortunately, this was on DoA and not here even though this person is a member here. I'm also worried about any backlash and me getting negative feedback.

 

I was actually very happy my transaction turned out the way it did. They were showing signs of a flakey seller so I was hesitant to send in a payment without further questioning and next thing I know they took off with the item I was going to buy and sold it to someone else They claimed because I didn't pay within the invoice window (which the date due was set for the same day they made it. I had no idea it was set to less than 24 hours until the next day) that I didn't want...which is completely false seeing as I sent them a message with a question the next about when they were planning on shipping it so I could send the payment in...and I didn't get a response until over a day passed when they said I didn't want it.

 

I was also told an excuse (limited internet to DoA...false because I can see you bumping threads!!)...and to me there just isn't any excuse other than laziness, purposely scamming, and immaturity.

 

Sorry for the rant, but it irks me.

 

Anouc, I know what you mean, Shailara makes a good point though. I even asked a DoA mod who said the I could leave flakey feedback.

It is also complicated when you know the other person. They say they will pay and then they don't for months and months or even years. They may buy other things in that time too so they don't have the excuse that they have no money at all. But since they know you, they put off paying because you are "friends."

I got a neutral one, but for revenge because I didn't accept to refund the money a few hours before the shipping.

I mean, I holded the items for a few days, he paid me and I took a few days to ship because my local post office was closed for works. The buyer knew that, and the morning when I was going to ship the item, he asked for a refund I couldn't provide, both because I spent the money already (I was sellig items to cover a few expenses I hadn't planned, people knew that) and because the item was packed for him already, and I was going to ship it a few hours later, going to another post office pretty farer than mine.

He got the item, and left me a neutral feedback because:

Item was dirty - not true, it was new!!

Shipping took some time - true, but i warned him immediately, who said it was OK.

So I say that negative/neutral feedback for revenge happen, but at the same time you can cover them with tons of positive feedbacks

I think it is also a problem because some people see something else they want and change their minds quickly. Then they back out of holds or they want a refund.

So I say that negative/neutral feedback for revenge happen, but at the same time you can cover them with tons of positive feedbacks

I dont want to cover anything when i did everything right!!! Thats the thing, i dont have ads to "cover" something for nothing, just for a pissed flackle buyer who want to revenge befor he/she realize his own actions? Oo

Revenge is really strong, and I shy away from that kind of stuff! !

It is also complicated when you know the other person. They say they will pay and then they don't for months and months or even years. They may buy other things in that time too so they don't have the excuse that they have no money at all. But since they know you, they put off paying because you are "friends."

 

Cant understand such thoughts, a friend is someone i want to give the money first befor i buy other thing or not?!?!

It is also complicated when you know the other person. They say they will pay and then they don't for months and months or even years. They may buy other things in that time too so they don't have the excuse that they have no money at all. But since they know you, they put off paying because you are "friends."

 

Cant understand such thoughts, a friend is someone i want to give the money first befor i buy other thing or not?!?!

Mitsuki means that when it's a friend, you're being more lenient. But even that has its limits, because sometimes, you might be in need of something or something limited appeared that caught your interest and you want to sell whatever it is fast. And then it gets complicated.

It is like Shailara said. You let friends get away with more. If a friend doesn't pay me back and I need money for the next Dolpa or something, I usually give up and sell something. Some people haven't paid me back after a year or more. I have a friend who says that you should only lend out what you are willing to completely lose.

No no no you both understood my sentence wrong ... Maybe because i said it unclear.

I meant i cant understand such people who wont pay friends immediatly, a friend is someone i pay first befor i pay everything or everyone else. Because they trust me. And i want to keep that trustful cirbleepstance.

I'm in the same boat in which I'd like to leave a negative feedback for an awful transaction I've had but I'm afraid they'd tag me back with a negative feedback for "revenge".

I'm in the same boat in which I'd like to leave a negative feedback for an awful transaction I've had but I'm afraid they'd tag me back with a negative feedback for "revenge".

 

I hope everything works out in the end for you!

 

I just got in contact with the seller I was having a bit of issues with and luckily they were understanding. I gave them a suggestion for next time which would've eliminated any flakeyness, so I guess I could say things worked out in the end.

I only had one negative experience and it was for a doll split that I joined. The person gave me a shipping quote for ems shipping which I paid, then kept telling me that my package was in the mail and that she would give me a tracking number shortly.

 

A closing in on two weeks later still no tracking nor any package, so I harassed her til I got the truth out which was that she hadn't shipped yet, and when she finally did she sent the package via regular air mail. I asked for a refund of the shipping difference and she sent it back to me as a purchase so I got paypal fees taken out of my refund.

 

I called her out on it in her feedback thread with neutral negative feedback for the transaction after the box arrived in wondercrap condition due to packaging. I tried to keep it simple and civil stating what happened and that i would use caution when dealing with her, she tried to tag me back about it groundlessly, and I pulled out everything that i had on her.

 

After that, she really couldn't argue without looking petty. My whole reason for posting this would be to say that as long as you are clear and honest about what happened and link back to the thread where the dispute about the feedback took place so that people can see for themselves, the evidence tells its own story. I don't think anyone should fear retaliation for feedback that's honest.

 

What are they going to say? "S/he paid on time for the items on the agreed upon date and time, how dare they!"

 

I admit the fear is still there for me though when I interact with sellers and buyers online, but I know that at the end of the day I did my best in whatever transaction I enter into and I will have records to show it if someone tries to pull any kind of negative bs on me.

 

TLDR; If you've got record to show you're not in the wrong you've nothing to fear.

Never have had this happen with doll stuff. Or even recently.

 

Years ago on an eBay account I had a reason to give a seller a bad feedback for a legit reason. This was way before eBay had the buyer protections they have now. The seller sent me something completely different from what was described in the auction. I contacted them to ask about it. They ignored the several emails I sent them over the course of a whole month. eBay wouldn't do anything. So I left the person a negative feedback, figuring I'd at least warn other people.

 

Seller never ever replied to any of messages, but then all of a sudden they gave me a negative feedback in revenge the next day. It was terrible, scathing, untrue things. And, again, eBay did nothing.

 

To be fair, I've almost never had bad transactions on the internet, either with companies or private sellers. Despite people acting like the internet is this terrible, untrustworthy place sometimes, I've had far better of a track record and experience from buying from the internet than I do from in-person stores. But that one revenge negative feedback really bothered me.

Retaliatory feedback is and always will be a thing on the internet. That's why 'tis prudent to read the feedback comments with a grain of salt, considering who said them and how over the top they seem before you decide whether to believe them.

 

I've had retaliatory neutrals and negatives from time to time on auction sites over the years, but they never affected my ability to buy or sell anything to my knowledge. There were always an overwhelming number of positives to counterbalance.

 

I think every feedback system exists to give an honest appraisal of each transaction.. 'Tis a disservice to all those who follow if one fails to leave a negative whenever it is earned by the other person, is it not?

I see what you mean, SakuraSylph. I guess even if a buyer is slow to pay or a seller is slow to ship one transaction, they won't necessarily be consistently slow. Most people don't write in feedback what the cirbleepstances were for why they were slow. I bought something a few months ago and lost communication from the seller right after I sent in payment. I sent several messages to see if they were still around. Finally, the seller contacted me and said that they dropped and destroyed their phone and had to go out of town so it took a while to get a replacement. I finally got the item I bought and I don't think this seller would do this regularly.

 

Things never arriving also doesn't mean that the seller didn't send them. I have lost a lot of things in the mail. I don't trust international shipping unless it is trackable. I would rather buy something expensive ($500 or $1000) and pay EMS or registered mail than lose less expensive things ($100 or $250) or pay shipping that costs as much as the item ($50 item with $35 shipping). So I tend not to buy things I might otherwise buy if the seller was in the U.S. I can't seem to get packages from England. I lost several from there. It isn't the seller's fault.

 

I have heard far worse things about some buyers/sellers. One person was describing a scheme for how to get free new parts. Say you have a broken doll/body. The person recommended buying the same doll/body off Ebay etc. Once it arrives, exchange out the part that is broken and contact the seller that the item was damaged in the mail. Send the item back to the seller and demand a refund. Now you have a new non-broken doll/body at no expense. Paypal and Ebay tend to be buyer protective rather than seller protective, so this person reasoned it would be very easy to scam people. So just like keijogirl said:

 

TLDR; If you've got record to show you're not in the wrong you've nothing to fear.

 

To be extra careful, you could take photos of things right before they are shipped, insure for the exact cost of the item, include a packing slip, get signature confirmation, etc. But that means a lot more work for selling. I tend to instead just take chances or buy directly from Volks or Mandarake.