Does Value Decrease When...

Does the value of a limited doll head decrease when the head is repainted and no longer default? Why or why not? Examples?

 

I'm referring to faceup quality as good as or close to Volks with a nice aesthetic.

 

I am asking mostly out of curiosity (I also want to have Rise repainted...not that I EVER plan on giving her up ).

 

If this has been discussed before then please do what needs to be done to this thread.

really depends. ever seen those yja customs. some are really ridiculously high in value

It depends on the doll to. Would think some more pricy limited girls could see a price drop with a bad or nonexistent face up. A well done custom may add value though, but for a doll that is already sky high I don't know if there could be anything of an increase from taking out something, people are lookong for in the doll itself.

On average, I think a refaceup decreases the value of a head.

 

Essentially by repainting Rise, you're decreasing your potential sales audience. You may or may not see a decrease on the price itself, but you're increasing the effort required to make a sale, at a minimum. Instead of being able to sell to just anyone who wants a Rise, you instead have to find someone who wants Rise AND likes that faceup.

 

You could get a premium price for it, or you could lose out.. No telling in advance. But no matter what, repainting does increase your risk.

On average, I think a refaceup decreases the value of a head.

 

Essentially by repainting Rise, you're decreasing your potential sales audience. You may or may not see a decrease on the price itself, but you're increasing the effort required to make a sale, at a minimum. Instead of being able to sell to just anyone who wants a Rise, you instead have to find someone who wants Rise AND likes that faceup.

 

You could get a premium price for it, or you could lose out.. No telling in advance. But no matter what, repainting does increase your risk.

 

 

I agree with the above. By changing a default faceup on a limited or character DD, you lose a bigger audience interested in the character herself. You *might* get more money in a resale due to who has done the new faceup but overall, I think if resale value is a concern then values stay higher for default faceups over customs on the limited girls.

 

But from what I've seen for sales of custom heads/DD's, the value seems to be held for the artist involved and not as much for the head itself. You have big money being spent on heads by Momoman and others off YJA and the wait list for faceups done by people like Hikaru on Flickr are very long. So artists help make heads and faceups popular for sure and that means more value for those.

 

I still think it's a slippery slope tho and you take your chances with value when changing characters from their default look. You have to weigh it out like this... change the faceup to suit yourself and then deal with a smaller buyer market later that *may* have higher potential ending prices for the head.... OR.... keep the girl default and have a larger potential buyer group with a possibly lower end price.

 

At least with most of the limited girls, they seem to either hold their pricing or go up in value over time. Not all do this mind you but I'd say at least 80% of them do. So if you bought them new from Volks, chances are you'll make a profit when selling in the end if you keep them default.

 

 

 

Billy

Hmmm... that was actually my dilemma with Rei when I asked juu-yuuki to do her re-face up. After all, as much as one would like to keep being in this hobby, there maybe some things that change that situation in the future that would force me to part ways with my Rei. Still, though, I think overall I'm happy I did have juu-yuuki do her face up as she made Rei more alive to me. I love how she looks and even though I don't post pictures of my girls as often, just looking at her makes me happy as she is really beautiful. So maybe I decreased her value a bit but I like to think I now have a unique Rei. Her price could also even go up because of that.

 

But yeah, I do agree with Billy that for the most part you do lose a bigger audience for the doll if you sell it unlike if you sell her with the default. Probably won't matter if you don't really mind waiting for someone who actually likes the new face-up and appreciates the fact that underneath the new face-up is the same unique doll mold that the other defaults have.

But what if the head is one that's usually sold as a basic, but the one you have was a special release with a limited edition faceup? If you wiped it, would it hold that same value? I saw somebody selling a DDH-04 they bought as a kit from Volks, and they were selling it for $350 after they'd given it their own faceup and weren't including the extras that originally came with the doll. It's less than what they paid for the kit, but I was able to buy the same exact doll head and body direct from Volks, with eyes, for 280 dollars. I think, if it was a valuable doll because of the faceup rather than sculpt, it would likely lose value if the faceup was wiped.

 

With custom faceups, it can really go either way. Some people don't care for a custom faceup at all, and others have favorite artists that they will pay the extra money for. I'm one of those people who generally wipes a faceup if the pre-owned doll had a custom faceup done. They just usually aren't to my taste.

But what if the head is one that's usually sold as a basic, but the one you have was a special release with a limited edition faceup? If you wiped it, would it hold that same value? I saw somebody selling a DDH-04 they bought as a kit from Volks, and they were selling it for $350 after they'd given it their own faceup and weren't including the extras that originally came with the doll. It's less than what they paid for the kit, but I was able to buy the same exact doll head and body direct from Volks, with eyes, for 280 dollars. I think, if it was a valuable doll because of the faceup rather than sculpt, it would likely lose value if the faceup was wiped.

 

Concerning the 04 - If you wiped a standard head but with a company faceup - I think you've pretty much lowered that heads value to that of a blank one (so maybe 120$ is now down to 45$ for example). There's nothing different with it now apart from its blank version.

 

My guess with that seller - is they assumed them doing their own faceup gave it much more value. Can't really say since I'd have to see the head, but there's sometimes sellers who don't have a realistic eye and assume their custom faceup job is worth x2, x3, x4 when it's not the same level of quality as the company/factory faceup or more seasoned faceup artist. DoA and YJA! has those all the time I've noticed - and I can't help but think, "welp... good luck with that.. o__o" when I see it.

 

Though with the 04s, there's the LE faceup that was done a few years ago and now the standard face up for Mayu. Which, correct me if I'm wrong, are two completely different paint jobs - so the original LE faceup head is probably worth alot more than the Mayu version just because you can't get it anymore.

The seller had bought her as a simple Mayu and wiped the company faceup. What they'd painted on the doll was very basic, and they admitted that it was poorly done. I just have the feeling that maybe they either weren't aware that the same doll was available for cheaper, or they did believe they were giving a fair price (despite the fact that they were selling it with nothing, 350 is still a bit less than 462)

 

Though I don't know how far people will look into a doll and pricing before they buy. I'm usually very careful and exhaust every possibility out there to get what I want. Even at what seems (to me) a significantly higher price than what the doll should have been set at, she did sell (I inquired about the doll before I looked at the Volks site for pricing)

Though I don't know how far people will look into a doll and pricing before they buy. I'm usually very careful and exhaust every possibility out there to get what I want. Even at what seems (to me) a significantly higher price than what the doll should have been set at, she did sell (I inquired about the doll before I looked at the Volks site for pricing)

 

Hmm, then it's possible she most likely sold because of the body, but it's such a shame the seller didn't just think to order a blank 04 head for him/her to tinker on... he/she could have gotten more money had he not messed with the factory paint.

I agree, it would've likely been better for them to buy the base body and head if they wanted to customize the makeup, but maybe they wanted what came with her in the kit? I'm not sure. I'm glad I did check the price on the Volks site, either way. I wound up finding a better deal for exactly what I wanted, and I don't have to worry about wiping a previous faceup to do my own!

Well, what came in the sale? A DDS body, being of the newer series, is worth about $300 now. Last year it was more like $350. And a blank head costs $42. So if even just the eyes were included then $350 isn't unreasonable. DDs don't usually go down in value unless they're damaged. You wouldn't really have been paying anything for their amateur faceup.

It was the DDII body, and just the head, from what I remember.

That's weird. If she bought it as a Mayu then she either got it as head only or switched the body. Yeah, a DDII with 04 head would only be worth like $250 to maybe $275. And yeah, it is annoying to try to wipe off a faceup and get the head back to really clean. So I wouldn't pay moe than the $250 even if it came with eyes.

Yeah, I'm really glad I looked into it more before dedicating myself to the idea of that one. I wanted one in white, and the seller said Volks didn't have any in-stock (they likely didn't when they posted the sales thread, but there are some in stock now) and that little line about how they weren't available elsewhere made me curious enough to check.

 

This was over on a forum for resin dolls (I collect BJDs mainly) and I'll admit I haven't look too much into DDs until recently. If I'd agreed to buy her without checking I would definitely have buyer's remorse over buying a used doll for more than what it costs for one brand new.